Please do not let this site become another UteFans

Agree – and thank you for your post. I left ute fans for the same reason. However, I don’t feel like my post was an attack at the LDS faith as I was simply stating we should make the same shirts they have made. That being said, I am done posting about the TDS until we play them next season.

Hi Proud, I’m assuming you might be responding to my post in the thread below, among other things. Fwiw, I opposed the tithing tshirt idea, and explained why. It’s unconstructive. Personally I agree with sticking to sports and happy to support that. Go Utes.

It won’t.

We need to keep this in mind:

That family you’ve sat next to at the games for years, they may have different political views than you do.

That fan behind you that you share a high-five every Ute TD, they have different belief system than you do.

The fan in front of you that you’re always sharing thougts about the Utes in the NFL, they may have completely different viewpoint on gun control than you do.

But what they all have in common with you is they are UTAH FANS.  

I don’t talk about politics or religion at a football game and avoid doing so on these boards.   MANY other places I can talk about those issues.

Yep, let’s keep it football & Ute sports related. If we bring politics, religion, etc. into this board, it will fail, IMHO.

These posts bother me. A lot. Here is why:

Duhwayne made a response in a post below. Some asked him about it. He clarified with a factual statement. 

YOU have turned into a big issue. Had YOU ignored the comment and posted a new topic on Utah football, it would have been buried quickly and forgotten. But YOU have turned it into an issue. 

What is it with mormons and being afraid of the TRUTH of their ideas? Why is it, whenever someone posts something FACTUAL about your church, you guys bring out the pitchforks and do your best to suppress the TRUTH? 

Why is it in mormonism, “the first rule of mormonism is don’t talk about mormonism”? 

Blows my mind. I served a mission for two years. I knocked on people’s doors at night, I interrupted their dinners, their lunches, their dates, their time out with friends and family. 

Not once did I get a mormon to come up to me and say, “hey, maybe you shouldn’t knock on doors after six pm. Today is Labor Day, let people have an enjoybale day off. They don’t get many of those.”

Nope, that was all ok. But when Duhwayne makes a statement of truth about BYU and tithing, it’s all “SILENCE HIM!!!!”? 

It blows my mind. Look, you believe in some pretty weird s**t. No one denies that. BUT, those are your beliefs. If you believe they are true, OWN THEM. Quit trying to silence everything YOU DO that YOU DON’T LIKE. 

It’s BS. It’s childish. It’s ridiculous. Don’t get angry and whining and all persecuted when you get a truth that you don’t like tossed back at you. If you don’t like how the church used their tithing money, say something to THEM about it. Force them to change. You will get excommunicated, but the good news is, a year or two later they will make the changes you were pushing for. 

My advice? If you find the truths of your church to be damning, then do what you do in your everyday life: Ignore them. Then it doesn’t turn into a s**tshow like this thread has become. 

I love this place, but don’t visit much during the off-season because there simply isn’t much Utah stuff to talk about. That’s not a knock on UteHub, just an observation.

Since the season started, there has been almost zero political discussion at UFN. One single post (with one reply) in the last 20 pages.

The off-season’s boring, yo.

Politics and religious discussion are not the only things different between the two sites. There are many differences. Keep it civil. There will be users and topics/replies that don’t jive with your opinions. Obey the site rules and use the ignore feature if there are users who bother you. It’s an open forum.