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HARRISON IS A UTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 12/12/2019 at 3:09 PM #117236
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      ThurstonW
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      GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 12/12/2019 at 3:46 PM #117239
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      Ghost of the HEB
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      Huge pickup. Picked Utah over ASU, USC, Oregon, Nebraska, Tennessee

      • 12/13/2019 at 9:37 AM #117269
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        Huge? Solid but not huge.

        This should be viewed as a gimmy commit. Mid level three star, instate (mormon) … should always be a slam dunk 

    • 12/12/2019 at 3:53 PM #117241
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      UtahFanSir
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      247Sports write up that will not last long.

      Nice get, the first of many good guys to join this class. That said, I can think of at least one person who will not see much of an improvement.

      With Harrison added to the class, the Utes have moved up 10 spots in the 247Sports Team Ranking to No. 79 in the country, and No.11 in the Pac-12.

      • 12/12/2019 at 4:36 PM #117245
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        Stone
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        Can someone please explain the seemingly-absurd way that 247 ranks recruiting classes? Why is it not based on the average ranking of the signed players versus what seems to be something that is weighted toward the total number of signed players?

        Maybe I misunderstanding the rankings, but it seems that, hypothetically, a school that signed 20 three-star recruits would be ranked higher than a school that signed 14 four-star recruits or 11 five-star recruits. That is, it seems to value quantity over quality…how is that relevant?

        • 12/12/2019 at 6:09 PM #117252
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          Central Coast Ute
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          If you look at each recruit they are assigned points. One three star might be a .86 and another might be .82. If you add up every player you get a total, that determines your ranking. Not necessarily the stars but the points. It is possible for a school to sign one four star and the rest three star and another school to sign all three stars and the school to have all three stars come out ahead In the rankings.

    • 12/12/2019 at 4:06 PM #117243
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      X723
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      Cool class of 70 to a class of 2020 proud of you…….. man I am getting old……

    • 12/12/2019 at 4:52 PM #117247
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      pedro
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      Shout out to Chaz Walker (former Ute) for training this kid up.

    • 12/12/2019 at 7:04 PM #117254
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      cjd1
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      If you go by average grade per recruit then Utah is about # 35 right now.

      • 12/12/2019 at 7:33 PM #117256
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        GameForAnyFuss
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        Thank you – I feel that average stars is more relevant when comparing recruiting classes. Schools that have smaller classes get punished in the traditional “total stars” way of comparing. The truth is, it’s probably better if a school has small classes – that means you’re likely losing fewer players who are already in the program due to transferring, academic issues, and off-field issues, right?

      • 12/13/2019 at 5:28 AM #117264
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        FtheY
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        This is the right way to grade, it normalizes for different quantities between teams. That being said, 35 is about where we’ve been the last couple of years IIRC. Would love to break 25 after a year like this one. 

        • 12/13/2019 at 9:39 AM #117270
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          ^ this

           

        • 12/13/2019 at 11:42 AM #117281
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          EagleMountainUte
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          Do you believe Utah is 35th?  There is a deep flaw in that thinking if you do. Many of Utah’s talent is inappropriately ranked. Fotu being the best example from this season or Lloyd.  I would say Utah is actually closer to 20-25th based on actual performance. 

          • 12/13/2019 at 1:32 PM #117295
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            FtheY
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            I don’t remember offhand and I’m too lazy to look it up, but I thought we ended up around 35th overall. I agree with you that we perform at a higher level that where we recruit – could be low rankings or elite player development, most likely both. 

            The sucky thing is that even if we perform higher or take inappropriately scored guys, that the *national perception is a lower valued recruiting class, because that’s what it shows on paper.

            Could you imagine how good we might be if we broke the top 25 in recruiting on paper with Whitts development? Amazing. We have the success this year to get there hopefully! 

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