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    • #144069
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      MDUte
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      As everyone can imagine, Cougarboard is blowing up right now over the recommended expansion proposal to 12 teams. With the access it provides a G5 Conf champ they are all excited to either join the AAC or go crawling back to the MWC.
      Wouldn’t it be funny if even the G5 conferences said no thanks to BYU and left them on the outside looking in as an Independent? I can see where before the AAC would want BYU to continue trying to build the strength of their league. However, I would think the teams in the AAC would say we don’t need BYU now with the new expanded playoff and would prefer to make their path easier and not harder by expanding their league to include BYU and another team out west as a traveling partner. And it’s even worse with the MWC not wanting to have to deal with BYU again with how they left the conference on bad terms to go Independent. I could see those teams not wanting to let BYU back in and thus making their road to a Conf championship and potential playoff spot harder.

      Will be fun to see how this plays out. But the thought of them getting snubbed by the G5’s in addition to no P5s ever wanting to consider them is making me chuckle. Going Indy could continue to be the gift that just keeps on giving.

    • #144075
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      Ute Dub
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      Rivalry Update Below:

       

      BYU SUCKS ASS!!!

       

    • #144076
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      Ute Dub
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      Imagine BYU groveling to Wyoming, Utah State, and SDSU to be let back into the MWC. Haha.

      SDSU should write another letter to any conference BYU tries to join.

       

      • #144078
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        pedro
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        Uh, don’t you think they haven’t already.  They have, trust me

    • #144091
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      PhiladelphiaUte
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      It’s not like the AAC doesn’t remember how high maintenance ybU-p was when they were negotiating with them back in 2011.  And they didn’t even want ybU-p from the get-go.  For those who had forgotten, here’s the playback…

      1.  The Big East was losing TCU and WVU, and feared with the rise of the MWC, and the decline of the Big [L]East, they risked losing their AQ status.  So in order to beef up their league, they sought out the best midmajor school available — Boise St.

      2.  The Idaho Board of Education refused to allow BSU to move to the Big [L]East unless they had a travel partner.  So…

      3.  The AAC reached out to….Air Force!  But the Zoomies declined the offer, as they felt they wouldn’t have been competitive enough to move to a higher league, that happened to be all the way across the country.

      4.  So Boise St — not the Big [L]East— suggested, “What about BYU?”  The Big [L]East was all like. “Whatever….just so long as we get BSU.”

      5.  So the Big [L]East reached out to ybU-p, who responded in classic Yner fashion of being all high maintenance.  And just how high maintenance were they?

      Answer:  They demanded that they get to keep their Al-JazoobieTV station, AND, that they be immediately eligible for full revenue sharing.  AND they demanded a FULL share of all television revenues at all their road games, BUT, demanded that they get to keep ALL revenues for their Home games.  Even Notre Dame — who was a full member in all non-football sports — wasn’t getting THAT deal!

      6.  San Diego St — who’d heard all that absurdity being played out over the media — stepped forward and pitched themselves as a better candidate, and even went so far as to include in their letter a very compelling list all the reasons why the Big [L]East really wouldn’t want to take on all that zoobie baggage.  And since the Big [L]East didn’t really care — just so long as they still got Boise St — they asked BSU if it would be okay with the Idaho Board of Education if they invited SDSU as their travel partner instead.  And all while this was being played out, ybU-p continued to dig in their heels, acting like they were the big prize, and if the Big [L]East wanted their services, they’d have to capitulate.

      ybU-p hadn’t changed one iota as far as their “pride” is concerned.  We saw THAT playing out with the Big XII.  And so too did the AAC.

      The AAC won’t ever offer them another invitation.  They don’t need them.  And should the AAC decide to expand back to 12 teams, I’m betting the first team they ask will be Army, and Boise St, SDSU, AFA, UTSA, USM, and UMass will all be ahead of ybU-p in who will fill that one final spot.

      And since the MWC is already at 12-teams, even if they COULD get the minimum of 9 “aye” votes to join — which for the record, they can NOT — that league is already full.  No room.  The zoobs will have to reach out to C-USA,the MAC, and the Sun Belt if they want to rejoin a conference.  Haha!

    • #144093
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      I think they are doing just fine on their own; 11-1 record last year. The lard will continue to provide to them health in the navel, marrow in the bones, strength in the loins and in the sinews to defeat their opponents on and off the field.

      • #144114
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        So many people upset with this post, but only 4 people liked a post about the university honoring veterans.

        • #144122
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          Someone disliked the previous post, but the number of likes on the aforementioned veteran post did not increase.

          • #144125
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            I feel like some people involved in this thread may have emotional issues.

    • #144094
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      Duhwayne
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      Well this escalated quickly. But seriously, if you ask Cougarboard, they were forced to go independent because TCU and Utah left. It’s completely untrue. Boise replaced Utah’s two BCS wins and MWC likely would have gotten a BCS bowl bid under the formula. But BYU left in August 2010, two months after Utah did. Sitting still was their best strategy but their dumped girlfriend wounded pride required them to act out. Patterson was livid. TCU joined Big East in November 2010 and switched to B12 later. BYU did all this to themselves.

      Tom Holmoe needs BYU football to win 7-11 games a year to keep the independence scam alive. Right here in River City. If they win too much or too little they get exposed. This year actually looks risky. The schedule is too much. The Lavell Edwards Bring in the Scrubs Schedule ™ last year was perfect but it is unsustainable. As long as they keep that AD they will not be “good” enough for other conferences but they will always be on the edge of greatness to the fans, who will complain about the disrespect for basically as long as they are alive. Lavell was the anomoly, the present is mean reversion. They earned all of this. Every bit.

      • #144095
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        UteBacker
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        In my opinion, BYU-P carries too much baggage to make them worth adding to a conference.  Would they bring additional eyeballs to TV sets for a conference?  Sure, but the other things they would bring would outweigh that benefit.  I’m not sure the school presidents would want to come within 1,000 miles of BYU-P in the current political environment.  I support their right to believe whatever they want to believe, but that can come at a price in a situation like this.  Also, if the playoffs go to 12 teams, why would a conference NEED BYU-P at this point?  Why would they want another school to feed?  Who knows, maybe I’m way off base here.  I just try to look at the whole picture of what they would really bring to a conference… 

        • #144096
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          Duhwayne
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          That’s the funny thing. Look at TV ratings for their road games. Their P5 opponents often have the worst ratings of the year that game. The national fan base argument is bull.

          • #144097
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            UteBacker
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            Are you sure?  They ARE Notre Dame of the west after all… douche bags.

      • #144106
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        PhiladelphiaUte
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        Correct you are Duhwayne!  I’m glad you posted the proper timeline, as it shows that TCU had no plans to leave the MWC until 2-MONTHS AFTER ybU-p had already announced their intention to leave.  The zoobs trying to blame TCU is nothing more than revisionist history.  They’re still looking for somebody else to blame, when the ONLY person responsible…

        …was Holmoe!

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