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    • 09/19/2021 at 9:13 AM #151089
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      Last night I called the coaching staff out for not starting Rising at the beginning of the season. I’ve seen others on here do the same after a night of sleep I have come to a possible conclusion. Rising’s shoulder injury was bad. Some guys come back and it still takes them a year to fully get right. It is possible that the coaches wanted to give him more time to sit and heal. Maybe they knew he was the better QB but thought Brewer would be serviceable in the meantime. We won’t know because we’re not in the coaches meetings. In the off season I heard Covey make some remarks about how the players know who the QB is going to be and his comments seemed to me at least, he liked Rising better. Later on he started using coach speak saying he doesn’t know because they’re both really good and it could be either one.
      Anyway, maybe the coaches were trying to protect Rising. Not sure how they missed the bad snaps from Ford however. Just some food for thought. Please leave your thoughts on matter if you feel inclined.

    • 09/19/2021 at 9:30 AM #151093
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      dystopiamembrane
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      Every team without a strong run game, no matter the apparent strengths/weaknesses of the quarterback, is destined for failure. That is the issue, in my opinion. I’d say both QBs are serviceable. One just can’t expect them to throw on 90% of the downs and be successful.

      • 09/19/2021 at 9:33 AM #151094
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        Very true. It seems Rising is the bigger run threat from the QB position. Hopefully that helps keep defenses honest in the future.

        • 09/19/2021 at 9:37 AM #151095
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          dystopiamembrane
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          Agreed. I know it’s not in Whitt’s playbook, per se, but I would prefer that we focus on the run game over the next few games – lots and lots of end runs, Rising up the middle, pitches back to Rising to throw short/medium passes over the top, Covey and Bernard are special and we should let them take the ground…

    • 09/19/2021 at 10:05 AM #151101
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      Yergensen
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      Could be, it’s a rational theory. It’s why we had to bring Brewer in, but it’s not necessarily why we had to start him. You don’t start Rising game 1 because of health, but 2 weeks later you bring him into a tight spot in the middle of game 3? Yeah, I’m leaning toward your original theory.

      • 09/19/2021 at 12:26 PM #151126
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        2008 National Champ
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        Yes. Rising had thrown 6 collegiate passes prior to yesterday, Brewer had 4 years of experience. If they were truly even as all reports stated, you start the guy with more experience but keep the other QB – who you’ve said is just as good – ready and involved. Utah did part 1 and ignored part 2. Didn’t even give Rising an opportunity to warm up before shoving him in the game.

        Rising should have gotten at least one series against the parochial school also to see if he could have lit the spark a week earlier. There was no reason to bury the guy you (the coaches) said was just as good because his skill set may fit better against a particular opponent. And remember, it’s not the most talented QB who should play. It’s the QB who makes the team play the best.

        • 09/19/2021 at 1:16 PM #151132
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          Honestly, I think the injury concern is a good reason. If the hope was Brewer would be serviceable, you can’t blame them for playing him.

          • 09/19/2021 at 7:17 PM #151158
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            I don’t. In fact, I think I said above that starting Brewer game 1 was the right decision.

            What I’m referring to is the statement made many times by the coaches that the QB comp was essentially a tie. If the backup is as good as the starter, he should still get a chance when the starter is ineffective. 15-26 (58%) 147 yards (4.7 y/att) against the parochial school counts as ineffective. Following that up with 14-26 (53%) 104 yards (2.3 y/att) says the staff waited too long to make a change.

            The injury to me is irrelevant. Either Rising is medically cleared or he isn’t.

    • 09/19/2021 at 10:39 AM #151103
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      Trailgoat
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      Let’s keep it real about Rising coming in late in the game. Full credit to Rising bringing moments of energy to a beyond pathetic offensive line. Hoke went to 4 man rush, keep the ball in front in prevent coverage, and still was able put pressure on Rising. If not for some missed tackles after catch and a very questionable PI in the end zone, SDSU ends it in regulation. When SDSU brought the heat Rising was running for his life like Brewer with faster legs. Rising will not last another game in this current dismal offensive state.

      Not going to jump up and down about Utah going to OT against a MW team playing their 2nd string QB. Utes have so many issues on so many levels, no wants to point out a HC that probably has run his course and hopefully for the benefit of the program and his own peace of mind goes out at the right time on his own accord.

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