Why is David Shawn’s seat NOT hot?

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- 11/08/2022 at 6:10 PM #177608
  
  UtesRule
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  They’ve gone from a perennial PAC-12 title team when we joined to the laughing stock. Don’t understand.
- 11/08/2022 at 6:22 PM #177610
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  EagleMountainUte
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  If I had to name one reason it is probably Apathy.
  Perhaps a buyout that they don’t have any reason to pay.
  I also assume they fire him or he resigns year end.
- 11/08/2022 at 6:50 PM #177613
  
  chinngiskhaan
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  well… They are recruiting rather well this year, are they not?
  - 11/08/2022 at 7:09 PM #177615
    
    AlohaUte
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    They have fairly good recruiting every year.
- 11/08/2022 at 8:05 PM #177616
  
  W16Ute
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  Who are you going to get that is better? He is a pretty good coach overall. You could pick up Scott Frost and have the same problem…
- 11/08/2022 at 9:40 PM #177619
  
  AZUTE
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  He runs a clean program. He doesn’t ask for facility upgrades or much of anything else and he makes millions of dollars a year doing those two things.
  
  He keeps the program out of sight out of mind which I think the Stanford Admin likes.
  
  His salary to do that is pennies to Stanford.
- 11/09/2022 at 8:33 AM #177625
  
  Central Coast Ute
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  He has the sweetest gig in all of college sports. Imagine having those recruiting classes, sucking that bad and keep your job.
- 11/09/2022 at 8:37 AM #177628
  
  Trailgoat
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  As of late, it’s been a tough road for Stanford. I would caution, Stanford may have a head start on what a lot of schools may be experiencing as NIL, realignment, and transfer portal start taking hold in the next couple years. Upside for Stanford is they have more power money than most P5 schools and it’s not even close if they want to jump into the NIL game. Stanford, as they should, won’t compromise academic standards and integrity as an operational and culture standard for the sake of winning like USC. To add some context, I know Utah was new to the P12 and other factors. Here’s a P12 program comparison.
  
  P-12 starting 2011
  Stanford/Shaw: 64-32 P12 record, 4 North titles, 3 Conference titles, 3-1 Rose Bowl Record
  Utah/Whittingham: 53-42 record, 3 South titles, 1 Conference title, 0-1 Rose Bowl Record
  - 11/09/2022 at 11:47 AM #177633
    
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    SU hasn’t been a factor at all for years now.
- 11/09/2022 at 8:39 AM #177629
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  GameForAnyFuss
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  He’s not on the hot seat because his players stay out of trouble, graduate with high GPAs, and go on to found tech startups that make 9 figures in an IPO. And Stanford is totally OK with that. And to be honest, more schools and fans should be totally OK with that as well.
  - 11/09/2022 at 9:29 AM #177631
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    Trailgoat
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    and the players will be a lot better off learning the lessons of navigating adversity and perseverance through sport.
    
    Agree, David Shaw is going no where. Stanford will find their way back in the mix if they don’t decide to get out of the college football mess all together, don’t think that will happen. College football needs Stanford more than Stanford needs college football. Hard not to be pessimistic about what’s becoming of college football.
    
    USC ranked where they are is a perfect example. It’s all about money and the Riley-Williams-Addison show, little to do with performance measurement when you compare USC to others in the CFP rankings. I would like to see UCLA and ND boat race USC. Sadly, Kliavkoff is still USC’s bitch after what they did to the conference leaving for the P12 which IMO is inevitably going to disolve at some point as soon as the BIG establishes a multi-team prescense out West. Utes just need to keep on keeping on as they do.
- 11/09/2022 at 11:45 AM #177632
  
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  One major drawback for SU is not being able to work the transfer portal due to entrance requirements.
  - 11/09/2022 at 12:08 PM #177635
    
    Calgradutedad
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    Stanford loses players to the portal more then they gain. Don’t think his seat is white hot since they beat Notre Dame this year but it’s getting a little warmer every year. With all of the changes going on in football now such as the LA schools leaving the PAC and the pending tv contract/expansion it might be best to punt a change in coaching until next year.
- 11/09/2022 at 7:48 PM #177646
  
  The Miami Ute
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  Why is David Shaw’s seat not hot? Because Stanford just views football as a necessary evil and part of the cost of doing business to maintain a high-level college profile. Results are incidental because, with an endowment equal to the GDP of some countries (almost $40B), Stanford doesn’t need football for anything. I imagine that, if things go as many people in the know claim and college athletes in the near future will be considered salaried university employees, Stanford and other high-brow universities will just drop football altogether or go down to Division III. The University of Chicago (a founding member of the B1G) did just that and it hasn’t hurt their academic profile at all.
  - 11/10/2022 at 3:02 PM #177678
    
    Utegator
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    I agree with this take here. I dont think Stanford really cares too much about maintaining an elite football program if it means sacrificing things academically. I definitely dont think they’d ever join the B1G because the travel for all non football programs would definitely affect the athletes academics. I have also heard that they have no interest in getting into the NIL games. I’m sure they believe a degree from Stanford should be enough.
    
    plus, none of their students care about the games.
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