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    • 10/29/2023 at 11:09 AM #203043
      Utah5410
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      Looking At The Schedule for us and opposing teams. The path is There. Utah wins out they will be in the chip. Likely ? Prob Not… But, still lots to play for. I think we do beat one of UW and AZ both teams are flawed enough that we will get one. However, I think it’s extremely unlikely that we win both. And one more loss is the death nail for us.

      bb is who he is. and without jackson so shocker is never healthy we are stuck. Our only hope, is too switch Vaki to full time O. Make him with the full time back with Jackson as the backup.

      If we can run then Barnes is able to do much more.

      What a joke our OL has been. I remember a few years ago we were calling for Harding’s head, then CR became QB. How much of the improvement on the o-line was Rising v Harding.

      To the Fire Whit Crowd. Will never happen. If Kuithe and CR did come back next years going into the Big-12 would be whits best chance to get to the playoff. Especially with it being expanded to 12. Whit is here until he wants to walk away. Which will be a few more years IMO.

    • 10/29/2023 at 11:39 AM #203044
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      2008 National Champ
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      Actually, no. The only likely way Utah gets into the CCG at this point is if they win out and are in a 3 way tie.

      UW, USC and Oregon all control their own destiny. Utah, UCLA and Oregon State all need help.

      • 10/29/2023 at 12:25 PM #203046
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        The Miami Ute
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        I’m getting deja vu all over again. Stranger things have happened in the PAC.

      • 10/29/2023 at 12:36 PM #203052
        22Ute22
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        The good thing is that Utah would probably get in via a tiebreaker since our schedule is the toughest.

        • 10/29/2023 at 1:54 PM #203054
          2008 National Champ
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          Yes on the tie-breaker. I went through that a couple of days ago but it all comes down to who you miss for SOS. Stanford is Utah’s ace in the hole and WSU forgetting how to play football after their bye week is just frosting on the cake.

          Oh, and I forgot to add Arizona to the 2 loss list that is still in the running.

          As of right now, there are 23 league games left and 7 teams with 2 or less losses. That’s a heck of a lot of iterations that would need to be run to figure out if Utah has a path to the CCG. If we assume triple elimination, the UcLA / Arizona game this weekend will bring it down to 6 teams with Oregon State and Utah fighting to stay in the loser’s bracket.

          Even if you assume complete chaos (where all 5 of the currently eliminated teams win out) or chalk, there are still 8 games among the top 7 teams that will decide who goes.

          • 10/29/2023 at 2:14 PM #203058
            2008 National Champ
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            Games that matter: (this assumes that the 7 teams in contention will beat the 5 teams who are out of the running. any upsets will change the math)

            11/4: UW @ USC
            11/4: UCLA @ Arizona
            11/11: Utah @ UW
            11/11: USC @ Oregon
            11/18: UW @ Oregon State
            11/18: Utah @ Arizona
            11/18: UCLA @ USC
            11/24: Oregon State @ Oregon

            edited due to stupidity

            • 10/29/2023 at 2:18 PM #203062
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              The Miami Ute
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              Those game dates are off by a month, aren’t they?

              • 10/29/2023 at 2:36 PM #203066
                2008 National Champ
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                son of a…!!! If I edit do you think anyone will notice that I can’t type dates? 🙂

            • 10/29/2023 at 2:34 PM #203065
              2008 National Champ
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              One scenario that would work for Utah would be:

              11/4: UW @ USC
              11/4: UCLA @ Arizona
              11/11: Utah @ UW
              11/11: USC @ Oregon
              11/18: UW @ Oregon State
              11/18: Utah @ Arizona
              11/18: UCLA @ USC
              11/24: Oregon State @ Oregon

              That requires 7 of the 8 road teams winning but would put 8-1 Washington in a rematch against 7-2 Utah with no tie-breakers necessary. Another possibility is SC beating Washington with the rest the same. Utah would be top seed at 7-2, USC would be the second seed based on beating UW.

    • 10/29/2023 at 2:24 PM #203063
      EagleMountainUte
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      I think Vaki is enamored with the idea and loves to help out the team. Switching him to the offense isn’t a solution he may want though.

      • 10/29/2023 at 3:52 PM #203071
        The Miami Ute
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        Eagle, love the kid, but I think he’s doing himself a disservice by focusing entirely on RB. His real future is at safety. That is, if he wants to play on Sundays. Again, my condolences on the All-Blacks’ loss yesterday. I watched the replay this morning on NBC and it could have gone either way.

        • 10/29/2023 at 4:11 PM #203078
          EagleMountainUte
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          It went South Africa’s way because of a horrible decision by a ref admitting it was a mistake live.
          I will say AB’s had a shot on that long goal later in the match so you could say it was a wash but AB’s had tough calls the entire Cup.

    • 10/29/2023 at 3:03 PM #203068
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      noneyadb
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      After that game? Whitt would be better off developing for next year. Let Johnson start vs ASU and then start Rose the remaining four games. Get the freshman RB’s in the game and figure out if Vaki needs to make the switch to offense.

      • 10/29/2023 at 3:29 PM #203070
        2008 National Champ
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        Rose has already burned his redshirt last year. If you want to play him, why make his first experience against UW in a must win?

      • 10/29/2023 at 3:55 PM #203072
        The Miami Ute
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        Money, I mean you could do that and that’s certainly a technique…but, as 2008 has illustrated, that would kind of mean giving up this season while there’s still a legitimate pathway to the CCG. Knowing Whitt, he’s going to fight to the last cartridge and go down swinging.

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