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    • 10/07/2024 at 6:32 PM #227261
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      Larry B
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      It should be “you’ll get X amount for committing to the program, and then X amount for each game you play in, each TD you score, each sack you get etc…”. I’m not suggesting that anyone is milking the system, but I’m not NOT suggesting that.

    • 10/07/2024 at 7:00 PM #227262
      Rick Walker
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      I agree, the current way it is NIL being performance based would be illegal (since the universities aren’t supposed to have anything to do with it) which we all know isn’t how it’s gone down. And it’s meant to be for players to profit off of third parties who want to give them deals, someone has to want to pay a player for one reason or another that has anything to do with anything but their play. We just need a contract system already where players can sign contracts with incentives like the NFL since it’s gonna happen sooner or later whether you like it or not.

      • 10/07/2024 at 7:32 PM #227268
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        2008 National Champ
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        We just need a contract system already where players can sign contracts with incentives like the NFL since it’s gonna happen sooner or later whether you like it or not.

        I don’t believe that would fix the problem. No one can tell Patrick Mahomes when or how often he wants to put his name on something for compensation outside of his contract with the Chiefs which is what NIL is. Kansas City can keep him on their team or cut him but they can’t keep him from marketing himself and that genie will never go back in the bottle at the college level.

        I realize that you are suggesting players sign 4 or 5 year deals with their schools but any contract has to have outs. And if the school doesn’t want to be on the hook for 5 years salary for a kid who underperforms, is a detriment to the team, suffers a career ending injury, etc.,, then there will have to be clauses allowing kids out of their contracts also.

        • 10/07/2024 at 8:07 PM #227275
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          Rick Walker
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          That’s exactly what I’m trying to say although I didn’t phrase it well. Cams NIL is like seeing Patrick mahomes in a State Farm commercial. But I’m also saying that if/when these players become employees of the schools their contracts should have conditions on playing.

          • 10/07/2024 at 8:50 PM #227282
            2008 National Champ
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            I’m in agreement on the incentives from a theoretical POV but I worry that in reality, it will be used as a cudgel to break the contracts. And, to be clear, I would love to see a model that works for everyone. I’m just not smart enough to see it right now.

            Imagine a scenario where the QB’s incentive structure is based on pass attempts. The team/coach/financial officer decide that sitting QB1 before he can hit the next tier makes more financial sense because they will spend less on that position the rest of the season if they split reps between the backups, even though they may lose more games. Or the opposite where QB1 decides he can’t amass enough attempts over the remainder of the season to hit the next tier so why risk injury?

            Similar scenario’s have happened in the pros fairly often with incentive based contracts. The advantage they have is scarcity of roster spots. But when you have 135 schools (rounded for easy math) with 100 spots there are a lot of potential places for a “disgruntled” kid to go to maximize his income. And with an organization as feckless as the NCAA has proven to be, I just don’t see any way a structure which will have enough teeth to protect both the schools and the players can be implemented.

    • 10/07/2024 at 7:45 PM #227270
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      RoboUte
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      Cam would be working at burger king

    • 10/07/2024 at 7:56 PM #227273
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      Tony (admin)
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      Professional golfers have a lot of performance based revenue. Also many of their sponsor require them to play in x number of events per season. I know other sports like the NFL do bonuses and such for sacks and interceptions and stuff like that. NIL is the wild west though.

    • 10/07/2024 at 8:30 PM #227279
      Roy Rangum
      Participant

      I think NIL will eventually become more and more performance based (including games played, particularly bowl games), but, the laws of supply and demand will ensure it will never entirely be performance based (if you want the best players, they will likely want some guarantee).

      And as it’s a contract between a private entity and a player, I think it’s perfectly legal. If I’m a company that essentially hires an athlete to represent my company, the more exposure they bring to my company, the greater the value they have to me (and hence would be deserving of greater remuneration).

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