I don’t feel bad for Cam

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- 10/15/2024 at 9:40 AM #228698
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  chinngiskhaan
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  I’ve made my stance on professional athletes and injuries known on here a few times before.
  
  I feel bad for injured college players that don’t get NIL. I do not feel bad for people that make a s**tton of money for playing a GAME. Injuries are part of the risk you take on in exchange for the ridiculous amount of money. I would trade my financial position with Cam’s financial situation+injuries in a heartbeat.
  
  The same thing goes for the fans hating on him. It’s part of what he bargained for when he agreed to take the $.
  
  I have ZERO issues with Cam. Good guy, good player. He doesn’t deserve hate.
  
  I hope he doesn’t come back. His lingering presence has not been good for the team. It isn’t his fault but his presence has resulted in serious problems for our team. We needed to move on two years ago. Whitt and Ludwig need to go as well.
  
  This program has gone stale.
- 10/15/2024 at 10:19 AM #228702
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  ProudUte
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  The one thing I agree with in your post is that we should not consider Cam coming back. We need to move on. We have had two hellacious seasons trying to navigate through his many injuries.
- 10/15/2024 at 10:55 AM #228709
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  Utah
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  Hey, we are all people. Did Cam make a lot of money? Yup. Is it frustrating that Utah let other players walk, including JaQuinden Jackson? Absolutely. If we paid Jackson instead of Cam, we are undefeated right now with one of the best running games in college football and we are all drooling over the potential of Wilson. Losing Jackson hurt us way more than we realized it would.
  
  BUT, it’s ok to realize that Cam is a person too. I can be mad and frustrated with his injuries and also acknowledge that his situation sucks, he probably feels like s**t, his dreams might be coming to an end.
  
  That sucks.
  
  So, thank you Cam. What happened happened, but it’s over now. I’ll always remember the two magical seasons you gave us and I hope things work out for you in the future.
  - 10/15/2024 at 11:07 AM #228715
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    chinngiskhaan
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    Ok… I don’t disagree with anything you said. I said I don’t feel bad for him. That doesn’t mean I have negative feelings for him or anything of the sort. As far as his dreams coming to an end goes, he got to live out his dreams a lot longer than most. He also got paid a bunch to do it (and even more not to do it).
    
    All things considered, he is an incredibly lucky guy. Why feel sorry for him?
  - 10/15/2024 at 12:53 PM #228744
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    @Utah: we seem to be on the opposite side of a lot of issues but I am 100% behind that post. Please enjoy a well earned upvote
    - 10/15/2024 at 1:25 PM #228753
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      oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!!!
      
      There is hope for the world. Maybe the lamb and lion will lie down together one day! Ha ha.
      - 10/15/2024 at 1:37 PM #228761
        
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        well shevitsky. now I’ve got to take it back 🙂
  - 10/15/2024 at 3:00 PM #228781
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    How in the hell can you say we would be undefeated if we used NIL money to keep Jackson? Jackson’s numbers so far this season are not as good as Micah through half the season. Micah is a much better all around running back. Period. Jackson has more size and is better at short yardage and goal line but our offense doesn’t sniff the goal line anyway. If you are saying Jackson with a true freshman QB is better than Micah with a true freshman QB, I completely disagree. Oh, and Jackson is NOT a better blocker so don’t even bother with that.
    - 10/15/2024 at 4:09 PM #228790
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      I think the point is that pairing a healthy Jackson with a healthy Bernard would have solved a lot of the short yardage and drive finishing issues the team has struggled with, no matter who was the QB. It’s only speculation but it wouldn’t take much to provide more than Stanley/Mitchell/Vincent have.
- 10/15/2024 at 11:32 AM #228720
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  RedUte14
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  i guess emotions don’t matter when compared to money.
  weird.
  - 10/15/2024 at 4:36 PM #228795
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    chinngiskhaan
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    It’s not that the emotions don’t matter, it’s that EVERYONE deals with hard things every day, and $ makes it significantly easier to deal with those emotions positively.
    
    I don’t know if this is true (for me) but it feels like I, personally, have a limited amount of give-a-s**t in me, and I choose not to use it on people who are, in view of the totality of their life circumstances, FAAAAAAAAR more well off than damn near anyone else.
    
    I’m sure many people aren’t this way, but I am. I just don’t have it in me to feel bad for a guy who is luckier than most of the people I see every day. In my previous line of work, I dealt with kids who had the s**ttiest of s**tty lives. Does anyone feel bad for them? Nope, not enough to do anything about it anyway.
    
    I’ll feel bad for guys like Cam Rising when every kid on Earth has at least two good meals a day guaranteed. I’ll feel bad for them when no longer feel scared in their own homes.
    
    I’m not trying to judge anyone who does feel bad for him. My inability to feel bad for everyone who experiences any amount of misfortune, regardless of how fortunate their lives, on balance, have been, is my own problem.
    
    I’m sure Cam doesn’t feel sorry for himself, why should I feel sorry for him?
- 10/15/2024 at 2:37 PM #228777
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  pedro
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  I think you’re missing a huge part of all this. Athletes have trained and competed their entire lives. That is what they live for. I bet, if asked, Cam would give up his entire NIL package to have played the last few years. Because of that, I feel bad for him and any player who loses the opportunity to play their game.
  - 10/15/2024 at 3:02 PM #228782
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    Some reports have suggested that he’s making about $2 million per year. You think he’d give up $6 million in exchange for playing healthy the last few seasons? Sorry but, give me $6 million dollars and I’ll give up any hobby you want me to.
    - 10/15/2024 at 5:02 PM #228798
      
      pedro
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      No offense, but you’re not a college athlete playing at an elite school. The competitive nature is beyond a level you or I understand.
    - 10/15/2024 at 5:03 PM #228800
      
      pedro
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      Furthermore, He was 2nd string and stuck around to compete (prior to NIL). That illustrates my point.
    - 10/15/2024 at 5:38 PM #228810
      
      pedro
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      One last point. He played an entire game w a season ending injury. Whether you are meaning to question his competitiveness or not, it’s coming across that way. Most do not get to this level off talent alone.
  - 10/15/2024 at 4:16 PM #228791
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    I feel bad for him because I don’t wish injury on anyone. But Rising wasn’t going to play for free when the market dictates that starting QB’s at P4 schools start at a million per.
    
    No one forced Rising to take any NIL. If he truly wanted to play for free, he would have. And if this was 2018 rules, he would have played for free. But not because he chose to.
    - 10/15/2024 at 5:00 PM #228797
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      pedro
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      I didn’t suggest any of those things. I simply said that if he had known then what he knows now about his injuries, I bet he would’ve taken the ability to play over pay
      - 10/15/2024 at 6:04 PM #228816
        
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        Yeah, that’s a hard one that we all deal with. If I had made ___ decision differently.,, The reality though is that we make the decisions we truly wanted to in most occasions so it’s not the decision that would have to change but the mindset of the person making the decision. Because I’m pretty sure that Rising would still try to come back thinking that now he had a better idea of how to get back to 100% and could avoid the pitfalls he eventually ran into.
    - 10/15/2024 at 5:24 PM #228805
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      chinngiskhaan
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      Me not feeling bad doesn’t mean I wish injury on him, or that I don’t care that he is hurt. I just look at things differently. On the whole, he is a fortunate guy.
      - 10/15/2024 at 5:35 PM #228809
        
        pedro
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        FTR, I didn’t think you meant that.
        
        10/15/2024 at 6:22 PM #228819
        
        chinngiskhaan
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        Ok, thanks for clarifying
- 10/15/2024 at 3:19 PM #228784
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  AlohaUte
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  This is one of the negatives of NIL and paying players. It changes the player- fan dynamic
  - 10/15/2024 at 5:25 PM #228806
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    chinngiskhaan
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    Yeah, but I think they would all trade fan empathy for the $ in a heartbeat. They would be stupid not to.
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