I’m Not From Utah or LDS

The honor code doesn’t apply to athletes. Never has. Unless you’re Brandon Davies I guess

Some of the best and wildest parties I went to in college, 20 years ago, were in provo. It was a strange scene though, because most of the time the girls would put their clothes back on once someone showed up with alcohol ha ha. When they would come north, the lds kids would absolutely rage… Until other lds kids showed up.

I knew a girl from hs that went to byu, 4.0 student, honor roll, student government. Got knocked up by a football player. She was forced to leave school and it pretty much destroyed her life. He was all conference and a local hero…has never paid a dime for that child. Women have always been second class citizens in lds culture, so it’s not surprising.

Jim McMahon was a pretty notorious party guy in college 40 years ago. I recall palpable stress from byu trying to keep that guy under the radar.

I doubt it’s changed much much these days, and I’m sure there are countless similar stories.

Here’s my perspective, feel free to agree or disagree with me. I am lds and honestly when considering byu for college the honor code wasn’t part of the thought process. I get why it would feel for restricting for lots of people but for me it’s rules I would adhere to on my own behalf, so it wouldn’t matter if the school enforced it or not. This is also the case for many other lds kids. Now for athletes, there’s numerous stories about players not obeying the honor code and part of that is that the 2% of students there that aren’t lds are mostly athletes, but I do think the athletes get away with wayyy too much (like McMahon). However, I also think the rules of things at any university especially byu are more strict than they are enforced just so kids don’t have too much elbow room to do the dumb things they’re gonna do anyways. But I know for many people that are lds they like that the entire university of like minded people which I understand but isn’t my cup of tea. I’d personally be somewhere there’s a presence of people that share my beliefs and a presence of people that have their own beliefs that I can have discussions with about different worldly views.

Because Ryan Smith has really deep pockets. Utah needs to step up in NIL or Ryan Smith, I mean BYU, will get all of the good local recruits.

It is generally enforced on rape victims at TSPP from what I understand.
With the assistance of a crooked police force.

If one is LDS it has appeal. Believe it or not, people actually do believe in their religion, even young people.