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2008 National ChampParticipantIf watching Bottari run the offense like it should have been all season wasn’t just the latest sign of coaching malpractice, I don’t know what is.
Multiple D and Special Teams scores and that is the offense you put on the field?
And knowing your kicker can’t make from the right hash, why not have your kick team ready to race on the field and take a quick knee on the left hash?
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Charlie Foxtrot
ParticipantWhen either Rose or Bottari can step in to a game and execute a serviceable offense, something is clearly wrong on the coaching front. Letting Rising play the whole game on a season ending injury, keeping IW as your starting QB when we can barely get in to double digits on the scoreboard for multiple games?
Whitt needs to look in the mirror and come to terms with the fact that the wrong choices were made on offense for multiple games this season and last. His offensive philosophy is outdated and it is likely to continue to crash and burn if he continues to stick with it. Not to mention it’s boring and the fans only put up with it because we were winning games.
I don’t have any direct sources or information, but I work with someone who is tied into the booster circuit at the University. I have heard him publicly state (not to me directly but to a group of people) that the boosters are tired of contributing for the type of offense that we are running especially now that we are on a six (now seven) game skid.
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2008 National ChampParticipant
Not to mention that 2 walkons have outperformed the multiple 4 star QB’s the program has brought in the last few years
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XanthisParticipantWhitt is so out of touch with what is wrong with the offense its mind numbing. He continually harps in the post game about the team not getting enough rushing yards. There is constantly 7-8 guys in the box and we keep trying to run off tackle because Whitt thinks if you have 100 yards rushing you win. Running the ball isn’t the issue with this offense. Its the only thing they try to do. What happened after the first play of a 51 yard bomb tonight? Run until its time to kick a FG.
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Yergensen
ParticipantPreach on brother.
Twenty years of boring offensive football, ~10 offensive coordinators, 1 head coach. Who is the common denominator?
BTW – does Whitt not have analytics on Becker from the right hash?
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GameForAnyFussParticipantInteresting. This is exactly what the BYU-Provo Campus fans were posting when they ran their second-best coach of all time (Bronco Mendenhall) out of town and entered their worst decade ever.
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EagleMountainUteParticipantI know you may think you are trying to make a point but many schools chase away a coach and then have problems after he leaves.
We can keep denying it or we can believe it is just a series of unfortunate events that has lead Utah to the worst season since 1986. Like a LOT of unfortunate events at this point on top of unfortunate events.-
GameForAnyFussParticipant
Ironically, your first sentence reinforced my point.
And the question isn’t whether Whit is doing a good job. The question is, would Scalley be doing a better job in the same circumstance? You’d be hard pressed to convince me he would.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
There is very little evidence that Whitt can turn it around either. Other than him getting a huge bag I don’t see how it turns around for Utah.
The way these losses are happening are very clearly the sign of a coach who lost the sauce. The offense has only improved due to defenses lacking film on who they cart out. Whitt has also had two byes to figure it out and hasn’t. It’s broken. It isn’t even talent it is coaching. The big12 opponent doesn’t have superior talent. That is a myth. It is coaching.
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UtahParticipantTrue.
But BYU didn’t have their successor lined up. Completely different situations.
If you like Scalley enough to name him the next HC already, then you believe he can replicate what Whitt has done. If you don’t believe this, then you’re a fool for naming him the HC in waiting.
So, you think Scalley is just as good as Whitt and Whitt has a HUGE hole in his coaching: the passing game.
Whitt is beyond incompetent in it.
Scalley plus Whitt’s incompetence = you’d be a fool to stick with Whitt.
You are knowingly sticking with a guy who can’t succeed in throwing the ball when your next coach can maintain the defense and is willing to open up the offense.
Take emotion out of it, and it’s an easy decision.
And it’s nothing like the BYU situation.
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AlohaUteParticipantYou complete idiots who want Whit fired over one bad season are utterly ridiculous.
Whit deserves all the criticism he’s getting this season. He should be getting crushed for it and he is. But you don’t fire one of the great coaches in the country over one bad season after 20 years of success.
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The Miami UteParticipantWell, here’s the thing Aloha…it all depends on what Utah wants to be. If it wants to sit at the college football “big boy” table, then there’s more than enough evidence that sticking with Whitt isn’t going to get them there. If it wants to remain a middling power, then by all means stick with Whitt until his contract runs out at the end of the 2027 season. And, as many people have mentioned, the systemic issues on offense with this program have been present for a significant period of time. Whatever Whitt had, well, it’s been found out because this team, time and time again this season (and for significant portions of 2023), has underproduced. It’s not surprising to anybody whether that team is Houston or Colorado. My dad always used to say that everything has an expiration date. The question is whether Whitt has reached his. If he has, then don’t expect things to get better. And, if things don’t get better, the harder the climb to respectability will become.
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jsimmons327
ParticipantIt’s not just one bad season. You have to look at all of the circumstances. At media day he says he won’t be around to coach the 2027 opener. No doubt he has earned the opportunity to turn things around if he had even 5 years left. But right now he is a lame duck coach and keeping him, at least from my perspective, is a bad idea. The offense needs to be totally rebuilt and he is the wrong coach for that given his history and pending retirement.
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USS UtahParticipantIt’s basically unknowable, but could the season have played out differently if Rose had been named the back up instead of Wilson? At the beginning of the season you play Wilson in garbage time to get him experience to build on, but when Cam gets hurt, I think, in hindsight, you need a back up who has been in the program longer. Of course, Whit gets the blame for going with and sticking with Wilson as long as he did, because the buck stops with him.
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2008 National ChampParticipant
Everything is a binary choice and he’s the guy making the decisions. We can only evaluate what did happen, not whether a different option would have produced a different outcome.
The problem is that we’re not allowed to have an honest conversation about Whitt. Point out a specific failure and someone will pop up saying “but 20 years of excellence”. Yet those same people won’t tell you their baseline for failure.
I would have probably thumbed up @AlohaUte above if he hadn’t started the post with “You complete idiots”. Yeah, he’s ready to have a rational discussion.,,
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OldskoolParticipant2008 National Champ – “I would have probably thumbed up @AlohaUte above if he hadn’t started the post with “You complete idiots”. Yeah, he’s ready to have a rational discussion.,,”
Interesting response from a guy who started a thread called “Whitt apologists can suck it!”
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2008 National ChampParticipant
You’ll need to talk to my editor about clickbait headlines. I can only be held accountable for the content of my posts which are the most reasonable and levelheaded of any I’ve read on this site
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