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AnferneeParticipantPlaying in tonight’s bowl game for Cal and I was curious to see his stats.
2023 with Utes: 29 rec for 261 yds O tds
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22Ute22
ParticipantHaha yeah, I saw his stats about 4-5 games into the season and noticed that he was on track to match his 2023 total. The fact that he actually did is absolutely hilarious though.
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The Miami UteParticipantYou are what your stats say you are. Anybody remember how bad he was as a punt returner? Did he also return punta for Cal?
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concernedParticipantOn the other hand, I will bet he is damn glad he wasn’t part of our crap fest this year
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J Rocksville
ParticipantAll things considered, if he is only what his stats are, then I’d rather come out the other side with a degree from Cal than a degree from Utah. No offense meant, my degrees are from Utah, but they definitely don’t have the same weight as Cal. I’m sure there are still some kids that value that as much or more than a short term paycheck.
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UtahParticipantGoing with this…it’s not so much the degree that is better…it’s the networking.
If you go to Cal, sit in your dorm and play video games all day…then your degree is no different than Utah’s.But if you meet people, get off your phone and get to know people…
Then your networking is better at Cal, especially depending on your career and if you want to be somewhere other than Utah. If you are hoping to live in Utah your whole life…
Then the Utah degree is probably better, for the same networking reasons. You can get to know people in Utah who may employ you someday.
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EmersonUte
ParticipantHey team – I have an undergraduate degree from the U (’05) and an MBA from Cal’s Haas School of Business (’10). The networking power is true. Cal is well represented on the West Coast, in pretty much all major east Asian cities (Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc), and the networking is great.
But if you think the actual classes are the same we’re all kidding ourselves. Utah has one nobel laureate. Cal has 22 laureates and I think 7 of them are still active. One of them – Olli Williamson – won a nobel prize in economics while I was at Cal. So its not the same. The knowledge generation coming out of Cal is massive. But Utah is certainly catching up. Our market growth and indicators are all way better – so Utah should continue to narrow the gap which I am happy about.
With that said, its a rare football player that’s taking the engineering and business courses. It happens, but in most cases they are doing other things. So Miami is right that to some extent it depends on the degree.
Go Utes
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The Miami UteParticipant
It depends what the degree is, doesn’t it? I’m not sure an Interdisciplinary Studies degree from Cal would trump, say an Engineering degree from Utah. A lot of those athletes going to elite academic universities only get in because they’re athletes and only graduate because there are degrees available that really aren’t that intellectually demanding.
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The Miami UteParticipant
It depends what the degree is, doesn’t it? I’m not sure an Interdisciplinary Studies degree from Cal would trump, say an Engineering degree from Utah. A lot of those athletes going to elite academic universities only get in because they’re athletes and only graduate because there are degrees available that really aren’t that intellectually demanding.
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Bob
ParticipantI have a degree from Utah and I’m making just as much as I would had I gone to Cal but I didn’t have to spend four years in that crap hole.
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Ya, I mean I’m not going to argue with you about that. You know way better than anyone else, but I think that’s a pretty poor sample size ha ha. I think if you take a poll of a 1000 hiring managers across the country and ask them which institution’s degree has better perceived value, not a lot of them would pick Utah’s. Berkeley has been rated one of the top, if not the top, public universities for a long time.
If you’re coming out of college and entering the workforce at the bottom, every little bit helps.
I’m not trashing Utah. I’m proud of my education and school. But I’ve also been around long enough to know that the school on the piece of paper they give you does make a difference in a lot of situations that can impact your career. Whether or not it’s worth dealing with a campus culture that you may or may not align with, is a different discussion altogether.
Anyway, go Utes.
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CharlieParticipantThe degree from Cal or top schools was very respected 40 years ago. Not so much the case anymore since it has been revealed that there are so many entry options beyond simple merit. But as Miami pointed out, the degree matters. A tech or engineering degree has a higher degree of difficulty then maybe liberal arts. Sadly, I am not sure all medical degrees can be trusted like they once were.
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Gilly Boy 94
Participantwhile i agree that the degrees from an institution like Cal are very noteworthy……..im not sure the disparity exists as much today in comparison to 20 years ago. i am also a Utah grad and a business owner, of a small architectural firm. i am not as interested in the name of the school on their graduate degree as i am their work experience, performance ability and character. and like the number other growing business folk, i am almost a little turned off at the ‘super-elite’ institutions……see them as places of political agendas and social experimentation rather than education.
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snorkerelli
ParticipantI see what you’re saying Gilly Boy. Like when JD Vance used his “elitist” degree from Yale law to network with the very folks that led to him making millions in venture capital with the very same tech moguls in SanFrancisco who’s kids are now attending Cal. The very same tech moguls that donated large sums of money to an unnamed GOP presidential candidate about to take office. The very same president that has the heaviest hand in “social experimentation” in modern history by nominating a Supreme Court that just reversed 50 years of settled law without any sort of societal mandate. I get what you’re saying. That’s what you meant, right?
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AnferneeParticipant
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Rick
ParticipantSnork,
You should join me and a few friends on Taco Tuesdays when we discuss thoughts and feelings during these unsettled times. It’s been good for liberals and conservatives in the group. It’s even added to some better understanding of one another, but let’s not do it here.Better yet, I can get you the name and number of a good therapist.
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Rick, thanks for the suggestion. It seemed genuine until you made the therapist dig. Not sure why you are responding to me if you’re trying to weed out political speech on this site. I was responding to another post with a not so subtle political dig, just in a more obvious way so those of you that can’t seem to hear the dog whistles can understand. In your little group, do you also make a suggestion to your “friends” that they see a therapist because they have a different viewpoint than you? I bet that goes over well. What a bridge builder you are.
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Snork,
That was snarky of me – I apologize. I was trying to be funny on the back end. Have a terrific day.-
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Rick, I appreciate the sentiment. You have a nice day as well. In fact, meet for tacos next Tuesday? 😁
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2008 National ChampParticipantMatthews’s stats for Cal might not be better than Utah 2023, but I fail to see how he would have gotten 30 catches in the 2024 iteration of the Utah offense.
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