Snowden

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- 04/23/2025 at 4:12 PM #243327
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  Tednab
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  Twitter reporting TDS throwing a massive bag of money at Snowden again
  
  @Alex markham
  
  The amount I’m hearing is an amount most people wouldn’t turn down, so stay tuned
- 04/23/2025 at 4:13 PM #243328
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  SouthJordanUte
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  This was on twitter so take it FWIW, but people are saying 2million was offered.
  - 04/23/2025 at 4:15 PM #243330
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    Central Coast Ute
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    It was reported just a few days ago that byu has been tampering again and that Snowden is one of their targets. Doesn’t surprise me at all.
  - 04/23/2025 at 6:02 PM #243357
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    Tednab
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    2 million, I think is a spun narrative.
  - 04/23/2025 at 6:25 PM #243365
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    highlandute7
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    Do we have any idea what we are paying him? Question is, does he take the highest amount to do pay for a hated rival or does he take comparable to stay where he is at?
- 04/23/2025 at 4:16 PM #243331
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  RoboUte
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  Wow thats the type of number that p**ses other players off. Dude is not worth anywhere close to that and people who aren’t making 10% of that but producing are going to start asking hard questions.
  
  Hard one to navigate in a locker room environment, especially considering one of the biggest NIL related pieces of news this off-season was about BYU’s NIL collective deceiving players.
- 04/23/2025 at 4:16 PM #243332
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  SLC-UteFan
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  Snowden isn’t in the portal now. Getting an offer like this has to be tampering – how can it NOT be?
  - 04/23/2025 at 4:24 PM #243334
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    RoboUte
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    I think it’d be fun to start running strategies to punish tampering. Like instant bounties on turning them in or something kind of escalation clause for honeypotting certain teams.
    - 04/23/2025 at 4:29 PM #243336
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      Tednab
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      There’s no accountability, why wouldn’t they . Hope they’re pay their nil tithing as well .. being honest in your daily dealings , believe that still question for card going members
- 04/23/2025 at 4:47 PM #243341
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  EMUte#2
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  As a nonmormon, why would someone go there. That is all the can offer is money. I hope he is smart enough to stay.
  - 04/23/2025 at 4:53 PM #243344
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    RoboUte
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    They do a pretty good job about playing up the wholesome lifestyle elements and that appeals to some kids who aren’t smart enough to see through the veneer.
    
    It’s going to be impossible to make provo appealing though. That’s a disadvantage they’re kind of stuck with.
    - 04/23/2025 at 5:14 PM #243352
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      The Miami Ute
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      Well, it’s the highest rated, with regards to academics, university in Utah. Yeah, I know, shocker that any athlete nowadays would be concerned about something like that. Personally, I think that the only reason why non-Mormon athletes go there is because they blow off the Honor Code, and no one cares.
      - 04/23/2025 at 5:18 PM #243355
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        RoboUte
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        The people that do care will let you know in ways that remind you that you’re a 2nd class human in their eyes.
        
        04/23/2025 at 6:05 PM #243359
        
        The Miami Ute
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        How so? Please elaborate…
      - 04/23/2025 at 6:18 PM #243363
        
        Kellso
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        That depend on the ranking criteria. Some have Utah ranked as the highest rated university in Utah.
      - 04/23/2025 at 7:01 PM #243369
        
        Charlie
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        I don’t keep up with these things, but if that is the case that is sad. When I finished at the U in the 70s I knew several others that did not get accepted to graduate school at the U and bumped down to the Y for the same. I wonder if that is the case with STEM programs?
  - 04/23/2025 at 4:55 PM #243346
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    Caleb
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    I’d go to BYU if they offered me $2 million lmao
- 04/23/2025 at 4:47 PM #243342
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  EMUte#2
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  I used to be mormon and think that would be hell on earth.
  - 04/23/2025 at 4:54 PM #243345
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    RoboUte
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    You’re enlightened. They’re 17 and have no idea how good beer tastes.
- 04/23/2025 at 5:05 PM #243347
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  Utesbyfive
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  Deadline to declare for the portal is Friday. Keep your fingers crossed.
- 04/23/2025 at 5:09 PM #243349
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  RustyShackleford
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  If Snowden leaves I’m done.
  - 04/23/2025 at 5:18 PM #243356
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    The Miami Ute
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    Personally, I think I’m done even if he stays. I’m kind of feeling this might be my last year as a season ticket holder. I had way too much fun going to about 30 x Utah Hockey Club games, and I think I’m going to fully transition my time, money, and attention to that team. At the very worst, they’ll never approach the hypocrisy that abounds in college sports today.
- 04/23/2025 at 5:18 PM #243354
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  mesovanhorny
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  Is tampering actually illegal any longer? On paper, maybe. I am no expert, and truly do not know so I’m throwing this out there.
  
  If the NCAA no longer has any teeth or much ability to reign in misbehavior, really, what’s the worst that could happen to an institution or coaching staff? Seriously? What recourse does the NCAA have in an NIL world?
  
  If this NIL ecosystem is going to continue to move forward in college sports, there needs to be clear rules and penalties and an overarching governing enforcement organization. It’s so fluid right now, and the NCAA feels very much like it’s in the death knell. I keep waiting for some new guiding entity to emerge whose rulings are honored and respected. But I’m not sure that group exists today.
  - 04/23/2025 at 6:12 PM #243361
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    Central Coast Ute
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    On paper yes. There is no way to punish boosters from doing it. The school always has plausible deniability. They can say they had nothing to do with it. It was donors that contacted him, not us. There’s no way to enforce that.
    - 04/23/2025 at 6:32 PM #243366
      
      Caleb
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      And the boosters probably aren’t even contacting him directly.
      
      It’s not dissimilar to when football programs reach out to coaches to gauge their interest during the season.
      
      When Florida went after Urban during the 2004 season, they didn’t directly contact him. They had people contact family and friends to gauge his interest. They did the same with a couple other candidates (Bob Stoops was one as was Butch Davis) and both basically came back that they weren’t interested to be ‘included’ in the coaching search. Urban was and became their top target, even as the season was going on (this would have been late October that year).
      
      I don’t think that’s illegal per NCAA rules like tampering might be as a written rule – but it’s the same basic formula: people associated with a booster reaches out to people associated with the player and play it pretty ambiguous – not a direct offer or anything (more like, “imagine if Snowden could make $2 million if he signed with another school…” “oh yeah…he probably would jump at that opportunity.” “Maybe he’ll be lucky enough to get that kind of offer if he entered the portal…”
      
      Some vague s**t like that.
      
      Ultimately, it does no one any good to cry about it. Crying doesn’t fix the issue. Tampering has always existed in college football. I promise you players are talking to other players on other teams who might be in their ear about coming to a team even during a supposed dead period. This is nothing new. The problem is that it’s now money related and unaffiliated with the schools so it generally leads to a grayer area overall.
      
      But it’s the name of the game at this point and Utah either adapts or they’ll completely crater as a program and fall significantly behind BYU.
    - 04/23/2025 at 6:55 PM #243368
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      RoboUte
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      Its easy to enforce you just punish the program becuase it incentives the program to police their donors and the donors will comply. Trying to punish the donors can never happen.
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