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    • 02/24/2017 at 11:05 AM #28732
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      96GradAlum
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      “To the politicians who have abandoned their civic obligations, I say this: Have some courage,” Giffords said in a statement. “Face your constituents. Hold town halls.”

       

      Republican lawmaker who won’t hold a town hall invokes Gabby Giffords shooting. She responds: ‘Have some courage.’

    • 02/24/2017 at 11:08 AM #28733
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      mokus
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      The same assholes that declare wars for kids to die in. Pussies.

       

      http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2017/02/22/rubio-says-he-isnt-showing-up-to-town-halls-because-of-their-hostile-atmosphere

    • 02/24/2017 at 11:40 AM #28737
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      Utahute72
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      How about we wait about six months and see how the inital efforts shake out.  I think these are entirely too early in the cycle.

       

      How can we ensure they are hearing from constituents and not some travelling show put on by the liberals.

      • 02/24/2017 at 11:50 AM #28741
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        Uterider
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        The only person paid to attend Chaffetz’ town hall was Chaffetz.

        • 02/24/2017 at 11:51 AM #28743
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          Utahute72
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          Proof?

          And paid or not, I’m still doubtful that everyone there was from his district.

          • 02/24/2017 at 11:59 AM #28748
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            mokus
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            Prove they were paid.  Maybe people are really p**sed off.  Even in Utah there are enough p**sed off democrats to fill a high school auditorium.

             

            http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-election-facebook-fake-news-creator-paul-horner-claims-responsibility/

            • 02/24/2017 at 3:15 PM #28770
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              ladyinred
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              Even in Utah there are enough p**sed off democrats to fill Rice Eccles stadium.

              There, I fixed it for you.

          • 02/24/2017 at 12:11 PM #28751
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            SkinyUte
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            Proof?

            You first.

            And paid or not, I’m still doubtful that everyone there was from his district.

            You’re probably right about that. Considering Chaffetz has been proving himself to be an embarrassment on a national level for months now, I’m guessing there were probably people there to protest against his larger role, and not just from his district. That’s what tends to happen when you consistently act like a buffoon.

          • 02/24/2017 at 12:13 PM #28753
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            Puget Ute
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            His district includes much of Sandy, Draper, and parts of Riverton and Murray/Midvale/Ft Union/Holladay. The population just in those areas is well over 200k, and probably includes 5x as many people than the entire rest of his district (Carbon, Emery, Wasatch, San Juan, and Grand Counties).

            Why is it so hard to believe that 3k people are p**sed off at him? There are probably 3k people within 1/4 mile of Brighton High School who would have shown up to protest him.

            Outside Agitators?

            I don’t know why the pic didn’t show up. Here is the link:
            http://www.sltrib.com/csp/mediapool/sites/sltrib/Pages/gallery.csp?cid=4942986&pid=4082203

          • 02/24/2017 at 12:24 PM #28755
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            I’m hooked into every left wing org, DNC, OFA, you name it and believe me, we are not organizing these things. For one thing, we don’t need to. Unless you call announcing the times and locations of these on FB organizing.

          • 02/24/2017 at 12:35 PM #28756
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            Guba
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            I had a number of friends and coworkers who attended Chaffetz town hall. It was just p**sed off constituents. They didn’t even provide a mic for the audience to ask questions. It was a bit chaotic because Chaffetz staff didn’t prepare properly. He is completely out of touch!

      • 02/24/2017 at 12:10 PM #28750
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        Town halls have been a tradition on session breaks.  What has changed that we should break from that?

        Also, what evidence do you have to suggest those who show up are not constituents?  I mean real evidence, and not just the politician saying that? Chaffetz word isn’t worth crap in my humble opinion.  I read the story, the cops told Chaffetz that there were 2 out of towners at his town hall who were outside trying stir up the crowd to rush the cops.  That’s it.  Furthermore, the DNC is in dissarray.  So they can’t even get their own s**t together let alone organize protests in every GOP town hall.  

        NPR(KUER) did an interview with the woman who started the Utah chapter of Indivisible and they posed that very question to her.  She said, this election has spured her to get involved w/ no prior political experience.  A friend pointed her to the documents at IndivisbleGuide.com and she started the chapter from there.  She hasn’t been contacted by anyone for anything.

        I appreciate your continued engagement on this board ’72 and these are my honest questions to you.  

        • 02/24/2017 at 12:49 PM #28759
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          I watched the interview of the woman who set up the Utah Indivisible website in her spare time. I am sure she would be flattered to have her grassroots effort of setting up an email list and sending facebook announcements to be compared to some huge international conspiracy.

      • 02/24/2017 at 3:19 PM #28771
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        ladyinred
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        People who are tempted to shrug off these protests as paid or otherwise in bad faith should be mindful of very, very recent history. The Tea Party protesters, also disregarded as paid or planted agitators, made their wrath known at the ballot box in 2010.

        • 02/24/2017 at 3:39 PM #28773
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          Utahute72
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          There is a major difference in the Tea Party and the current round of protests. The Tea Party grew out of frustration with the ACA. These happened AFTER the bill was passed. These are all taking place BEFORE any real legislation has been passed.

      • 02/24/2017 at 3:24 PM #28772
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        ladyinred
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        How about we wait about six months and see how the inital efforts shake out

        What ”initial efforts” are you referring to?

      • 02/24/2017 at 4:37 PM #28776
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        PorterRockwell
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        C’mon 72 you’re better than that. Claims of “liberals” flooding these town hall meetings are just that, until somebody has some definitive proof otherwise. These claims are GOP cowardice. They know that they are going to have to govern, they know that the ACA wasn’t nearly as much of a failure as they’d like to claim and that people want it fixed not repealed.
        The GOP has nobody but themselves to blame for the blow back they are getting.

        Waiting six months doesn’t make sense. That sounds more like a ploy to silence people and will only make it worse.

        • 02/24/2017 at 6:46 PM #28785
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          Puget Ute
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          The thing is, the notion that these huge protests are NOT being paid has to be terrifying to people. 

    • 02/24/2017 at 1:16 PM #28761
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      leftyjace
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      For those that have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal, this is a very interesting piece that is pertinent:

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-rowdy-town-halls-more-organic-than-organized-1487881129

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