Can I be a dick here?

I was expecting something better than that with the title.

I can see where the coach is coming from, but I just don’t see where Troy benefits from transferring. It’s not like he’d be starting at another P5 team, or am I mistaken thinking that? I do think Cox’ transfer last year put us in a bad way depth-wise at QB, but that if Troy transfers, it is a catastrophe for Utah. Waaaay worse than the Cox transfer.

Probably something to do with Whittingham wanting to give him a chance, and learning to let Taylor do his thing with the offense. I was in that camp, hoping that Williams just had a rough first year as a JC transfer. I’m fully onboard now with Huntley starting and have eaten my crow about it.

Simple…the high school coach should shut his trap and behave more like a matura adult — hard to find these days, I know. Stop speculating. If Whit and Taylor have done something unsavory, then Troy can tell the story.

I just signed up for the board and this is my first post. As a lurker I always looked foreward to your posts but I’ve got to say I really don’t understand/agree with your recent switch to calling Troy a bad QB. You looked at the numbers from last year, so i’m sure you’re spot on about him being a below average Pac 12 QB, which certainly is “not good.” 

But our whole offense was “not good.” If I recall correctly, you were the one who refenced the comments from other coaches about the noticable improvements in offensive scheme under Troy Taylor, and cited that as an indictment of Roderick as well as a source of optimism for this years offense. Why doesn’t that same optimism apply to Troy Williams? Why doesn’t the excuse of Roderick being a bad OC also explain William’s shortcomings? As a matter of fact, I would argue that Williams has the most valid excuse for being “not good” of anyone on offense if the claim is true that the offense ranked second in drops last year. 

Also, if what you’re saying about Troy is true, then all Huntley winning the job means is that we have a QB that showed himself to be at least maginally better than “not good,” which is hardly reason to be hopeful that we may now have a passing game.

Is Troy p**sed?  Good.  Work harder and you can still change your future. 

I’m sorry Troy, it sucks but this is the game.  Work harder and don’t Corbin Louks yourself. 

Is there news of a transfer or are we making s**t up?

Though I prefer the Moose or Stormin Mormons (3 cheerleaders per male), the chub at least shares a nice neckroll of fat with most of the NEZ.

If you can’t be a dick here then it’s not safe to be a dick anywhere. Let me know if you need some Justice dispensed happy to oblige

Woah, woah, woah.  If you hope Troy’s HS coach is right then you are implying you are OK with our coaches being shady.  

I don’t believe their intent was to be shady.  There was a legitimate QB battle and Huntley won.  Period.

I may have missed people saying it because I don’t remember reading it BUT if anybody was bad mouthing or using negatives toward Troy Williams as a way to promote or give reasons as to why Tyler Huntley should have won the starting job than that is a poor argument and I would ignore it, and would prove to be a weak/no real point or argument.

Obviously all of us here are just speculating but given that the coaches jobs are on the line on QB decisions I would give the benefit of the doubt that this was purely on who won the job in spring and fall camps. They either feel Tyler out right won it or that Troy didn’t separate himself and in the past I would’ve guessed tie goes to the more experienced QB but with this new offense and new coordinator helping make this decision I can see the benefit of if equal than go with the younger QB to let him grow in the system. I would also expect the same thing 2yrs from now if Tuttle is as good as we all hope and is fighting for playing time and the starting spot.

As long as everything was communicated to Troy Williams like I hope it would be and he keeps his head up this decision was made with the idea that if Tyler isn’t ready or can’t handle it or just flat out not what they thought he was then Troy will get his chance and keep the job the rest of the year.

I think it’s been pretty clear that throughout spring and early in fall camp Troy was clearly the better QB. As happens with most players it seemed that something clicked with Tyler and he started really coming on. I think it was the best case scenario where Troy was improving his game, but Huntly just improved faster and showed more upside.

Choosing a starting QB is a bit counter intuitive. In most instances all things being equal, you take the more experienced guy, but with QBs if all things are equal you chose the guy with better upside and the time left in the program to improve. Troy’s path to starting was to show he was clearly the best option BECAUSE his experience allowed him to produce much better than the competition. It didn’t happen.