We had more offensive yards than WSU tonight.

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- 11/11/2017 at 10:04 PM #47661
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  Taylor is not the problem. Tonight, the problem was TO’s. Mostly by the Florida men.
  
  Those guys are true sophomores. I’m pumped for the future. We are getting better.
  
  WSU is a very, very good team. Top offenseive and defensive team.
  
  We had a lot of TO’s by young players who have gotten better and will only get better.
  
  We are young and will get better. Taylor is getting better (other than that dumb reverse in the red zone). It’s coming together.
- 11/11/2017 at 10:07 PM #47664
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  They didn’t need the yards because they were starting after TO’s with short fields, real short, like 13 yards etc.
  - 11/11/2017 at 10:12 PM #47667
    
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    Exactly. Also, even if we didn’t have all those turnovers, who knows how much our offense would have done and how well WSU’s offense would have played. As Alex Smith would say, sometimes QBs have a lot of passing yards because they were put in a passing situation (come-backs/catch-ups). Obviously, would have been better without commiting so many TOs.
  - 11/11/2017 at 10:37 PM #47674
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    The problem was the TO’s. Those aren’t on Taylor. Huntley threw for 300 yards.
    
    And those are TO’s of young players. We’ve asked Huntley, Moss, Simpkins and Nacua to carry this team. And an insanely young OL. Look at our top players outside of Carrington, who didn’t play tonight: sophomore, sophomore, sophomore, freshman.
    
    If you think tonight’s game doesn’t win us a couple of games next year….
    
    Outside of the TO’s, which were huge, we played well. There was a ton of good tonight. 7 really bad, but a ton of good.
    - 11/11/2017 at 10:47 PM #47676
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      How many times did we have a WR open deep and Huntley over threw him? At least three times.
      
      Taylor was fine tonight. He oozed potential tonight. He did what everyone dreamed of when we were happy over the summer.
  - 11/12/2017 at 2:43 AM #47703
    
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    To be fair they started on fields that didn’t have many available yards to gain, but they still didn’t even gain those (they kicked a ton of field goals). Had they scored tds the short fields=less yards argument would be valid
- 11/11/2017 at 10:16 PM #47669
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  I agree to an extent. I believe the Illegal Man Down field issue is something he hasn’t addressed properly and that hurt us twice tonight(wiped out two PI calls). Also hasn’t adjusted for our average Oline play, and by that I mean we keep running slow developing pass plays. When TH just drops back without the play action he does a much better job. We need less run/pass options. And our runs need to be designed runs so we can get Moss some decent blocking. So although I feel Taylor has some good things about his system, there are a lot of things that need to be changed.
  - 11/11/2017 at 10:33 PM #47673
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    The illegal man downfield is on the QB. He needs to get the back out quicker.
    
    Its almost like Huntley is a true sophomore.
    - 11/11/2017 at 11:28 PM #47684
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      Illegal man downfield is called when a lineman goes 3 yards past los on a pass play, that’s solely on the o-line player. Has nothing to do with how soon the QB throws the ball.
      - 11/12/2017 at 12:46 AM #47692
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        RPO. The QB has to make a decision and make it fast. After a certain amount of time, the lineman goes downfield because he anticipates it being a run. Huntely is a second late on his RPO reads.
        
        11/12/2017 at 1:06 AM #47694
        
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        For as often as it’s called and as much pressure as defenses are getting in the backfield why the hell is a lineman downfield?
        
        11/12/2017 at 1:35 AM #47701
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        Because he is told to run block. On a running play, he makes his first block then works down field.
        
        That puts the pressure in Huntley to make his read and if he throws it, to throw it before the OL gets to the next level.
        
        Huntley has to be quicker with his reads, and he will be. It comes with experience. Dude wasn’t the starter until a week before the season started.
        
        11/12/2017 at 3:07 AM #47704
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        Uhatafe was called for IMD because he “wandered”, he wasn’t blocking anybody downfield. The o-line can’t proceed to the next level on RPO plays until they know it’s a run or pass play, and the ball has been thrown. Either way they’re behind the play, or not getting the push off the LOS that a normal running play demands to be successful. Defenses know this and just run delay blitzes. Didn’t Oregon and ASU already prove that?
        
        Rpo needs to be done away with.
        
        11/12/2017 at 1:56 PM #47754
        
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        Yeah it is one guy usually if it was THE entire Oline I would believe it is on Huntley. Uhatafe Just wandered up to a lineback and started blocking.
      - 11/12/2017 at 4:08 AM #47714
        
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        Wrong! On run pass option the Oline is set to run block. Ball has to be out within 2.5 seconds if the QB decides to pass or the Oblocknwill be downfield every time.
- 11/11/2017 at 10:18 PM #47670
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  Twisting stats to fit your belief is just wrong man. You are better than that.
  - 11/11/2017 at 11:00 PM #47681
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    I️ didn’t twist any stats. I️ stated a fact.
    - 11/11/2017 at 11:41 PM #47686
      
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      7 to 2 turnovers that is the stat that matters.
      - 11/12/2017 at 12:05 AM #47689
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        You’re changing the goalposts here.
        
        We lost because of the TO’s. They were back breaking. I’ve stated that a lot. It doesn’t change the fact that the TO’s weren’t Taylor’s fault. And that Taylor called a good game.
        
        And our offense put up yards.
        
        There was a lot of good tonight. The TO’s cast a massive shadow over it, but there was a lot to like as well.
        
        Like, we were 3/4 in the red zone, the one miss being the awful reverse call.
        
        11/12/2017 at 12:11 AM #47690
        
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        I mean you can’t silver line the yards Wazzu was held to because of the turnovers. The only silver lining is you had a horrible f**king day of being -5 in turnovers and held Wazzu to 33.
        
        As far as Offensively you didn’t have a single answer for the PAC12 DPOY. I get that it would have been hard to contain him for four quarters. But no adjustments were made from stopping him from causing havoc. Moss getting retaped in the game means he totally abandoned the rush.
        
        11/12/2017 at 7:14 AM #47717
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        Nobody stops Mata’afa. He is like the Spanish Inquisition.
        
        He plays every position on D line (often rotates from play to play) and is so quick and strong that he gets through the line before the O line can block him. Throw in the D-line stemming and switching gaps just before the snap and it gets tougher to alter the block scheme fast enough to make a difference.
        
        11/12/2017 at 10:06 AM #47738
        
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        You account for him a little is my point. Utah and specifically Huntley never did.
        
        11/12/2017 at 12:18 PM #47745
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        They tried. He is so quick and strong, and has such a low pad level, that he blew through the holes before the blocker could engage.
- 11/12/2017 at 1:17 AM #47698
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  Wazzu had a short field frequently so that leads to lead yards. However the defense held them to less than 4 yards per play, which was less than we had. That is a better stat in this type of game. So your point is good, it is just that yards-per-play tells the story better than total yards.
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