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- 11/30/2017 at 6:37 PM #50406
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  Hal Evans
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  Yes on Troy and no on Anderson…….too much weird baggage at this point
- 11/30/2017 at 7:07 PM #50409
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  EagleMountainUte
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  I am surprised many on here don’t remember his negative recruiting when he left. Dude was like Venom promised a lot of kids things. Then he totally weirds out and quits mid season saying well I give back my contract. Who wants to deal with a guy like that?
- 11/30/2017 at 7:16 PM #50410
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  UteThunder
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  Taylor did some nice things, but I don’t get all of the love fans have for him and his offense.
  
  Take away the decent showings against North Dakota, San Jose State, & UCLA(the three worst defenses we faced) and Taylor’s offense averaged a whopping 22.3 ppg. Our offensive production in Redzone scoring and 3rd down conversions was still bad. And he completely under utilized Moss and DHC in the running game for half of the season.
  
  I’ve come around on the idea that we should probably give the guy another year or two to see if the offense improves with some stability, but after one year under Taylor and it seems we didn’t upgrade from A-Rod. We just traded a running game for a passing game.
  - 11/30/2017 at 9:16 PM #50422
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    noneyadb
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    Do you honestly believe that with the inexperience, injuries, difference in coaching, etc.Taylor was able to achieve the offense he fully wanted to implement in the first year? Scoring 30 on Washington is pretty damn impressive.
    - 11/30/2017 at 10:30 PM #50428
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      UteThunder
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      If we didn’t have so many other recent examples of first year OCs who had to deal with inexperience, injuries, difference in coaching, etc. then I would be inclined to agree with you. Schramm, A-Rod, Chow, BJ, DC, Hard-Rod all put offenses on the field that were comparable to, or better in some ways, than Taylor’s offense. Interestingly, other than BJ, they all won more games than Taylor in their first year, too.
      
      The offense did look pretty good against Washington, but how much of that was due to a let down by Washington after falling out of contention for the North? The offense also looked completely inept a week later for almost the entire second half against a crappy Colorado team.
      
      Edit to add: It’s worth noting, Taylor had two things none of our previous OCs had in Huntley and Carrington. Huntley is more dynamic and more accurate than any of the QBs our previous OCs had and Carrington is the best WR we have had in over a decade, maybe ever.
      - 11/30/2017 at 11:07 PM #50436
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        EagleMountainUte
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        Taylor had probably the weakest OL of the bunch and maybe a backfield just starting to build some momentum.
        
        But I agree with everything you said. You could put the same excuses that all of the others OC’s dealt with on this season. The only asterisks is that Taylor had much better talent top to bottom sans Oline.
        
        Edit: Youth with better talent. All of the other OC’s had G5 talent.
      - 12/01/2017 at 4:53 PM #50497
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        noneyadb
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        Your complaining about an offense looking inept up 28-0 that’s f**king hilarious…
        
        12/01/2017 at 9:00 PM #50509
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        UteThunder
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        Not complaining about it, just pointing out some evidence that maybe his offense actually wasn’t as improved as the Washington showing would lead some to believe. How do we put up 30 against UW on the road and then only score 6 in the second half at home against Colorado? It seems like just more evidence that suggests the UW game was either a fluke or a letdown by a deflated Husky squad.
- 11/30/2017 at 7:23 PM #50411
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  ProudUte
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  I hope Taylor stays. We need some continuity on offense and I am concerned that Tuttle might bolt if he leaves.
  
  I like GA. But, I don’t think Scalley deserves to lose his job to him. If Harding goes, you could make GA the assistant head coach and put him over special teams and possibly a position like LBs.
  
  So, I say keep both.
  
  If we need a new receivers coach, I say that we should go after Fesi Sitake. It would be a nice promotion for him and he appears to be a very good young coach.
  - 11/30/2017 at 7:55 PM #50413
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    FtheY
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    Agreed on Taylor. Agreed on Gary.
    
    As for the receivers, is Holliday at risk of losing his job? Or do you think he’s going elsewhere?
- 11/30/2017 at 8:03 PM #50414
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  KiYi-Ute
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  I want Troy Taylor to stay, I think the offense progressed as the season went on and he can put us in a position to win a lot of football games.
  
  Anderson I’m not sold on. Had he not bailed on two schools and had a meltdown to a reporter via text message, then maybe. But it sounds like he’s too volatile to be an asset to the team. Plus, he made literally zero progress at OSU while he was there.
  - 11/30/2017 at 11:21 PM #50438
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    Puget Ute
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    Troy Taylor will prove to be a homerun hire.
    
    I’m not sold AnDersen, but he would be a very good addition on D for the line.
- 12/01/2017 at 10:06 PM #50512
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  TexanUte
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  Continuity not always a good thing if the continuity means continuation of mediocrity. Programs can turn on a dime with the right hire such as Urban Myer to Utah in 2003. That was an example of a discontinuity that proved to be program changing.
  
  Bottom line: Continuity sometimes good sometimes not. By association sometimes discontinuity can be not just good but great.
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