Whitt being considered by NY Giants for HC

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- 12/30/2017 at 4:43 PM #52604
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  rbmw263
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  https://fansided.com/2017/12/30/giants-coaching-candidates-kirk-ferentz-kyle-whittingham/
  
  I would be really curious to see how he would do as a pro HC
- 12/30/2017 at 4:57 PM #52610
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  Anonymous
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  This, or retirement, are the only ways that we lose Kyle.
- 12/30/2017 at 5:01 PM #52611
  
  Anonymous
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  Which candidates should make up the list of possible replacements?
  Name your top five.
  - 12/30/2017 at 5:17 PM #52612
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    - 12/30/2017 at 5:25 PM #52613
      
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      Uh, noooo…
  - 12/30/2017 at 5:26 PM #52614
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    1- Gary Andersen
    
    2- Gary Andersen
    
    3- Gary Andersen
    
    4- Jeff Tedford
    
    5- Brian Harsin
    
    6- Jim Leavitt
    - 12/30/2017 at 5:31 PM #52615
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      Anonymous
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      Really? Gary?
      He bombed out his last two HC gigs. Highly questionable moves, both of them. I like the Harsin comment.
      
      How about Harding?
      Mike McCoy?
      - 12/30/2017 at 5:38 PM #52618
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        UteThunder
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        Last two? He was very successful at Wisconsin.
        
        12/30/2017 at 7:25 PM #52627
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        iamthepreacher
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        He maintained status quo at Wisconsin.
        
        12/30/2017 at 8:38 PM #52634
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        UteThunder
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        Not really, the Badgers were trending downward prior to Gary becoming the HC.
        
        The three years prior to Gary taking over in Madison . . .
        
        2010 – 11-2(7-1)
        
        2011 – 11-3(6-2)
        
        2012 -8-6(4-4)
        
        The two years Gary was in Madison . . .
        
        2013 – 9-4(6-2)
        
        2014 – 11-3(7-1)
        
        Regardless, Gary’s record in Madison is far from bombing and would be considered a successful coaching job by almost any program.
        
        12/30/2017 at 9:21 PM #52640
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        Puget Ute
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        The numbers at Wisconsin look good, but are a bit more telling when you look closer.
        
        In 2013 they beat:
        
        A good Iowa team and a sub-par byu-P team.
        
        They also beat: 1-11 UMass, FCS Tennessee Tech, 1-11 Purdue, and a bunch of 5-7 and 4-8 teams.
        
        In 2014 they beat:
        
        A good Nebraska and decent Rutgers and Minnesota teams. And an FCS team and a bunch of bad teams.
        
        They beat a solid Auburn team, but without Gary Andersen (Barry Alvarez coached).
        
        Basically, they beat all of the teams they were supposed to beat and lost all of the tough games.
        
        And They got absolutely pasted in the Big 10 CCG by Ohio State, 59-0.
        
        After the Oregon State debacle, I am just not confident in his abilities.
        
        12/30/2017 at 10:02 PM #52646
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        Way to paint a partial and slanted picture to fit your narrative.
        
        In 2013, you left out a win over a good Minnesota team(8-5) and that BYU team was not subpar(8-5 with wins over Texas, GT, Houston, and Boise).
        
        In 2014, they didn’t just beat a “good” Nebraska team, they thumped a 9 win Cornhusker team 59-24. Rutgers and Minnesota weren’t just “decent”, they both won 8 games that year and the Badgers beat the Scarlet Knights 37-0. In addition to those wins, Wisconsin also crushed an 8 win Bowling Green team 68-17, curbstomped a 7 win Maryland team 52-7, beat a 6 win Illinois team, and beat a 7 win Iowa team. By my count that is 7 wins over good to really good teams, impressive any way you slice it.
        
        12/30/2017 at 11:35 PM #52651
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        noneyadb
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        In a down year in the PAC where everybody is bitching about going 1-8 in bowl season you two want to hire a coach who’s team went 1-11???
        
        How many times has GA beaten an end of year top 20 team as HC? Zero… Great idea.
        
        12/31/2017 at 12:47 PM #52667
        
        UteThunder
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        How many times had Urban Meyer done that before we hired him? Whittingham? Zero and Zero. What a couple of bad hires they turned out to be.
        
        12/31/2017 at 1:09 PM #52668
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        noneyadb
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        😂😂😂 you and Utah are perfect. Comparing Kalani to Helton, and Urban to Gary Anderson… Can there be any two worse comparisons???
        
        Personally I’d rather hire a coach on the upswing as Urban and Whittingham were, than a coach who failed miserably in a supposed failing conference.
        
        Hell, Why not hire Helfrich? He atleast made a national championship appearance. That’s wayyyyyyyy better than GA…
        
        12/31/2017 at 1:20 PM #52670
        
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        Show me where I compared GA to UM.
        
        I merely pointed out the fallacy in your logic. If we applied your standard to all coaching hires, not only would we not have hired the two most successful coaches in our program’s history but we would also be limited to a very slim number of options for any future coaching hires. How many coaches have wins over top 20 teams? How many of those coaches can we afford? How many of those coaches want to come to Utah? How many would be a good fit at Utah?
        
        12/30/2017 at 11:56 PM #52655
        
        Puget Ute
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        You are getting hung up on numbers of wins and names of programs, without looking at who those teams beat. It is a big stretch to call those good to really good, unless you also count 2017 Utah as Really Good or better.
        
        In 2013 Minnesota beat a sanctioned Penn State and an average Nebraska (who had a good win over Georgia in the bowl game).
        
        2013 byu beat Texas (who beat Kansas State and Texas Tech, and nobody else with a pulse), and Boise (who beat Utah State and a rising Colorado State, and nobody else), and GT (who beat Duke + nobody), and Houston (who beat Rice).
        
        2014 Nebraska beat Rutgers (good win – beat WSU when we couldn’t) and beat Iowa in OT (who only beat very bad teams).
        
        2014 Bowling Green beat teams like Kent St, UMass, VMI, and Buffalo (and somehow beat Indiana, who was embarrassed into action and beat Missouri the next week). The Fresno State team we beat 59-27 that year would have beat BGSU by 20.
        
        All that being said, the 2013-2014 teams were a lot of fun to watch, especially Melvin Gordon. He was dynamite.
        
        12/31/2017 at 12:37 PM #52666
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        Why do I have to consider 2017 Utah to be really good or better if I consider a 7 win Iowa or an 8 win Minnesota team to be just good? Is there something magical about Utah that makes their 7 wins better than those other teams’ 7 or 8 wins? We weren’t a great team this year, we weren’t even really good, but we were at least a ‘good’ team who was able to win 7 games including a bowl.
        
        The fact of the matter is, if a college football team wins 7 or 8 games then they are at least a good team. Especially if they do so while playing in a P5 conference.
        
        If Ute fans want to knock on GA, go ahead, there’s plenty to mock at Oregon State. But to point to his time at Wisconsin as an indictment of his coaching ability is laughable.
        
        12/31/2017 at 4:08 PM #52675
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        Puget Ute
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        Whitt’s win over Arizona this year was about as solid as any win Gary had at Wiscy. All I am trying to show is that Gary is not any kind of an improvement over our current coach.
    - 12/30/2017 at 6:37 PM #52623
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      I thought you were a Utah fan??? Why would anybody want Gary Andersen anywhere near the HC spot at Utah? That just seems like a program-killing hire. That is Tyrone Willingham to Washington level of bad.
    - 12/30/2017 at 7:33 PM #52628
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      EagleMountainUte
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      1.Not Gary Anderson
      
      2. Leach
      
      3. Jay Hill
      
      4. Not any coach with initials GA.
      
      5. Not Sitake
  - 12/30/2017 at 11:44 PM #52653
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    noneyadb
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    1-5 Dave Aranda…
- 12/30/2017 at 5:33 PM #52616
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  Hellhound152
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  Yup, sounds promising:
  
  “Whittingham has long been one of the more underrated or overlooked head coaches since he took over for Urban Meyer at Utah. He has been mentioned for openings at bigger programs, most recently at USC before Clay Helton took the job. But he would be in for a massive culture shock to leave Utah for the New York Giants. I don’t see that happening under any circumstance.”
  
  God the off season is exhausting…
  - 12/30/2017 at 5:38 PM #52617
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    Tony (admin)
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    God the off season is exhausting…
    
    And you’re only 4 days into it!
- 12/30/2017 at 6:52 PM #52624
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  Puget Ute
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  Following in the footsteps of Jim Fassell?
  - 12/30/2017 at 11:43 PM #52652
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    Tony (admin)
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    The duck!
    - 12/30/2017 at 11:58 PM #52656
      
      Puget Ute
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      Did he ever try that at NYG?
- 12/31/2017 at 9:53 AM #52661
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  KiYi-Ute
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  I don’t want Whitt to go anywhere. But in the extremely unlikely case that he did…
  
  Les Miles.
  - 12/31/2017 at 1:14 PM #52669
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    FtheY
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    I’m seriously surprised no one has picked him up. Maybe they have and I just missed it – but he seems to good to be unemployed.
- 12/31/2017 at 3:17 PM #52673
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  Duhwayne
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  Gary F**K NO Anderson
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