Worst fall season ever for USC?

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- 11/20/2018 at 8:12 AM #79596
  
  ProudUte
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  Is this the worst fall season ever for USC? Consider this:
  
  – Losing record and will not go to a bowl game
  
  – Lost to your rival when they had only won two games previously
  
  – The Rams are dominating the NFL and have now caught the attention of the LA fans. USC may no longer be LA’s football team. I think many LA football fans are turning to the Rams and or Chargers.
  
  Add to this the many coaching changes in recent years, NCAA probation and I think USC football is in big trouble IMO. I don’t think this is a good thing for the conference or the Utes. It helps to have marquee teams in your conference. USC still has a big name, but they are a long way away from where they were in 2004.
- 11/20/2018 at 8:37 AM #79601
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  My fear though is they are a sleeping giant. With all of their talent and the right coach they could be right back in it.
  - 11/20/2018 at 9:08 AM #79605
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    Utah
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    USC is never “down”. All it takes is a Whittingham and they are back to never losing.
    - 11/20/2018 at 9:21 AM #79608
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      jamarcus24
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      To play devil’s advocate, I don’t know if it’s a Whittingham-type that would get USC back to their consistent winning ways. I think it takes a coach with questionable ethics and a disregard for protocol. You know, a really likable guy that will give you everything he’s got and then up and bounce on you when he gets found out.
    - 11/20/2018 at 9:25 AM #79609
      
      palos_verdes_ute
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      programs like usc are loaded with talent. you need a coach that can manage the talent. whitt is not that type of coach. he’s merrits are to coach up the paucity of talent and make them play like they are 4/5 star atheletes.
- 11/20/2018 at 9:07 AM #79604
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  palos_verdes_ute
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  everyone says helton is on his way out, but i don’t necessary think it’s a done deal. he has a 15 million dollar buyout. i think swaan is the bigger issue here. he is inept and not a qualified ad to run a program like usc; he’s just an ABC sideline reporter. even if helton stays, usc can rise and be competetive. it’s not like helton did all that bad.
  - 11/20/2018 at 9:09 AM #79606
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    Yeah, he just won a PAC-12 title and Rose Bowl.
- 11/20/2018 at 9:27 AM #79610
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  Anonymous
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  The conference needs two things. First, it needs USC to be USC. Second, it needs to stop favoring the LA market and let the competition happen on the field. Those two things and the rest will take care of itself.
  - 11/20/2018 at 9:37 AM #79613
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    palos_verdes_ute
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    Have we ever thought of a paradign shift happening? Maybe, this division champion is the first of many to come? That in a few years we can actually compete perennially. This is how a powerhouse emerges. I’m just saying…
    - 11/20/2018 at 10:02 AM #79615
      
      EagleMountainUte
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      Never happen but it would be nice.
      - 11/20/2018 at 10:15 AM #79618
        
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        I think it could. Oklahoma came from somewhere, they didn’t just appear. Alabama isn’t a large market team. I don’t think it’s out of the question.
        
        11/20/2018 at 10:18 AM #79619
        
        palos_verdes_ute
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        Remember Oklahoma State use to be a truck stop before Les took over. Of course they have Boone money. But yeah, to your point….program rises and program falls.
        
        11/20/2018 at 2:25 PM #79723
        
        EagleMountainUte
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        You know why Utah won’t be like USC? USC doesn’t put it’s interests below the rest of the conference ever. Utah has demonstrated that they will take it on the chin for the conference. Look at this season as a whole Larry Scott and the P12 are laughing and lying.
- 11/20/2018 at 9:28 AM #79611
  
  X723
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  If Kyle went there I would say 50 to 60 end up leaving — Will not work for there playing time……………..
  - 11/20/2018 at 9:32 AM #79612
    
    palos_verdes_ute
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    I 100% agree. You have athletes that think they should play because they are an ESPN100. Whitt doesn’t give a crap about that. He wants you to run the Xs and Os. Total conflict…
    - 11/20/2018 at 10:00 AM #79614
      
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      What? this makes no sense. almost EVERY player on USC is a 4-5 star. They have no “rudy’s” and never will.
      
      Anyone who plays at USC know they will need to battle against the nations best to win playing time. Sure, players leave the USC program because of playing time but they are typically replaced with another 5 star talent.
      - 11/20/2018 at 10:03 AM #79616
        
        EagleMountainUte
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        Yeah it is a different mentality. Whitt would make them all earn it.
      - 11/20/2018 at 10:07 AM #79617
        
        palos_verdes_ute
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        I think you missed my point. It’s not about competing with another 4/5 star player. It’s about listening to Coach Whitt and running your routes, assignment, etc….most importantly, practice well. We all know that Whitt won’t play you predicated soley on athleticism.
        
        11/20/2018 at 10:18 AM #79620
        
        St George Ute
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        Simply put, many of the players on USC’s roster have a sense of entitlement and don’t want to put in the work to earn their spot. Much of it comes from years of being told how good they are, that they’ll play in the NFL, parents moving them to teams/schools if they aren’t automatically given the #1 spot, etc.
        
        Hence the term University of Spoiled Children
        
        It takes a certain kind of coach to get players like that to buy into the team first mentality. Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are a couple of the good ones.
        
        11/20/2018 at 10:19 AM #79621
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        I really don’t think players dictate the culture at USC. Again, they have too many Top rated players coming in EVERY year to put up with any nonsense.
        
        Not running the correct route? No problem, put in the other *5 star reciever.. problem solved.
        
        11/20/2018 at 11:32 AM #79633
        
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        They were playing soft even before the losing streak (that we started them on). There has to be a reason for that.
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