you must be a zoob. they have been obsessed with Sagarin rankings my entire life
The Sagarin Ratings don’t mean jack in the court of public opinion. It’ll be ignored until it can be used to justify the presence of a B1G or SEC team in the CFP.
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“According to sarigan ratings, the Big 12 is the 2nd ranked league, even ahead of the big ten.”
Regardless of what sagarin says,it is the same bad logic that concludes that the XII is better than the B1G as it was by byu fans for many years saying the Pac 12 was bad.
I haven’t checked, but I would guess this nonsense would be all over Cougarboard. And I’ve seen the BYU dentist (optometrist?) In Alabama post this bad logic before, and byu fans eat it up.
It’s pretty simple. Does anyone think it’s easier to get past the top teams in the B1G such as tOSU, Penn State etc vs. the top teams in the XII? I certainly don’t.
The XII is NOT better than the B1G and only byu fans woukd think it is.
I like to use Sagarin as he ranks every team 1-263. And he gets much more accurate as the season rolls on. Was anyone more concerned with Utah when Rising threw for 5TDs in the first half against SUU? No more than what they already knew. SUU is ranked 159. Tulsa is 122. I agree with 22Ute22, Arkansas, ranked 41, is a much better picture. Oklahoma is a good team without any significant weaknesses that has only lost twice at home since Covid (and has 6 wins against ranked teams in that time). This is our hardest game this year, by a long shot. Much harder than Arizona at home or UCF on the road
According to the current Sagarin ratings.
8 Utah 86.20
15 Kansas State 83.93
17 Oklahoma State
23 Central Florida(UCF) 80.96
24 Iowa State 80.48
28 Kansas 78.18
72 Houston 69.51
68 Cincinnati 71.53
67 TT 71.58
60 Colorado 72.87
51 ASU 74.67
50 BYU 74.67
37 Arizona 76.39
36 Baylor 76.49
32 West Virginia 77.28
30 TCU 78.03
35 Washington State 76.57
47 Oregon State 75.19
39 BSU 78.08
49 UNLV 74.69
80 Fresno State 67.93
99 San Jose State 63.51
103 Air Force 62.78
106 San Diego State 61.79
107 Wyoming 61.55
108 Colorado State 61.46
If the Pac could grab the following teams I’d be in favor of going back to the Pac 12.
1. Utah
2. ASU
3. Arizona
4. TCU
5. Kansas
6. Oklahoma St
7. Kansas St.
8. Stanford
9. Cal
10. OSU
11. WSU
12. BSU
13. CSU
Which other MWC teams are joining, the others don’t move the needle. Those teams are a much better league than the Big XII. But that’s not going to happen. OSU and WSU made about the only move they could. Travel would be better. But man those MWC teams added to the Pac are mostly dogs. And you’d have similar problems due to 16 teams and the bottom teams being horrible.
43 California 75.73
84 Stanford 66.80
I know this is current, Stanford should get better. And Cal is holding their own.
Which teams would you like to see in a league with Utah. I am watching OSU and WSU this year over current Big XII teams.
Saw that yesterday….Mind-boggling how we’ve gone 7-4 against that with all the key injuries.
Hopefully, people who have become accustomed to the success we’ve had the last couple years & are frustrated with this year will acknowledge this fact….Remarkable, really.
Sagarin has our schedule currently at #1 in the country.
Sagarin Predictor says Utah by 1.5 and gives Utes 56% chance of winning.
His model that weights recent performance higher pushes that 2.2 points.
All these seem to say the outcome is going to be determined in the last possession. GO UTES!
Right now Sagarin has Weber St as the #100 team.
FBS teams right near them include
- #97: Boston College
- #98: Liberty
- #99: Stanford
- #100: Weber St
- #101: UAB
- #102: UNLV
- #103: Rice
So certainly not elite company, but not Sam Houston St (#144) or Southern Utah (#177) or Utah Tech (#216)
beyond that, this team was legitimately, tangibly, and substantively a top 10 team. SP+ had Utah finish 10th, Sagarin had Utah finish 7th. Those are maybe the 2 most respected metrics in the sport. Beyond that, Massey composite (composite of 55 different computer polls) had Utah 11th, while metrics consensus had them at 8th.
Season was not without its warts. Some obviously disappointing moments. But in the end Utah was thoroughly a top 10 caliber team and back to back conference champions. There are levels to this, and this is one Utah hadnt hit yet. Checkmark, on to the next.
