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  • rbmw263
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    sagarin conference ratings year over year will prove this is absolutely nothe case. Of course our delusional proximity associates wont care

    #133350

    Topic: SOS

    in forum They So Poo Poo
    PhiladelphiaUte
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    Last week, Sagarin ranked the tdS’ SOS #112.  Then they played no one last week…

    …and their SOS rose to #106!  How funny is THAT?  For months now, the whYners had been defending their SOS, while jeering at us because we hadn’t played a game yet, whereas Ute fans had been jeering at THEM for having played no one either. 

    Now, after only 2 games, our SOS is ranked #7, and the zoobs’ SOS only moves up when they stop playing!  Haha!

    #130171

    In reply to: 2019 Utah vs. 2020 BYU

    rbmw263
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    theres a lot of talk from utah media how they finally get their first test tonight. Houston has played 1 single game and is ranked 43rd on sagarin. If they are as good as they say they are they better win by 28. And even then…we have no idea what houston is yet. Probably need them to play more than 2 games to determine that. 

    #116829
    Swoop Doggy Dogg
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    Their SP+ is top 30. Sagarin has them as a top 20 team. Massey 26th. 

    Great offense, great special teams, and a mediocre defense. It will be like playing USC again. 

     

    Scoring offense is in the top 20.

    Total Offense is in the top 15 in the country. 

    Red Zone Offense in the top 10 in the country. 

    3rd down conversion rate is in the top 10 in the country. 

    They pass for nearly 300 yards per game, while rushing for 172 on 4.66 yards per carry. 

    They do give up a lot of sacks, one of the worst in the country. 

     

    On defense, they are giving up about 29 points per game putting them in the middle of P5 teams. 

    Their passing efficiency defense is in the bottom 12 of P5 teams. 

    Total Defense ranks them 108th in the country. 

    Their rush D ranks about 50th in the country, giving up 4.2 yards a run for 140 YPG. 

    TO margin was fairly similar to Utah, both on the plus side. 

     

    With a great passing offense, losing Blackmon is going to hurt us. Losing Hubert will hurt. Let’s see how many others are going to sit out the game for the sake of their NFL future. Playing a big brand in a new bowl might be an incentive to be excited. 

     

     

     

     

    #114326
    UteFanatic
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    Does anyone know how one would predict the outcome if Utah were to play Minnesota?  It seems likely that if Utah goes to the Rose Bowl, they have a very good chance of playing Minnesota.  I’m just wondering what that theoretical match up would look like.

    I know there are ways of doing this using Sagarin, FPI, and SP+ rankings – but I don’t know how to do it.

    rbmw263
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    Frustrating that we arent getting a ton of credit for that win. Almost none nationally. That was a win over a top 20 caliber team in their building with one of the smartest matchup/schematic coaches in the country coming off a bye week. The wtf Stanford game is keeping their perception way down. Well below where their actual standing based off their entire satistical bodyof work places them. Not saying they deserve to be ranked top 20 by any means, but its arguably as tough of a win as…say…Baylor, who sits 3 spots behind UW in FPI and 9 spots behind is s/p (1 spot adv in sag), when you factor in their bye week its certainly close

    Swoop Doggy Dogg
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    Looking at a couple of computer rankings like Massey, Sagarin, and SP+, Utah’s strength of schedule is middle of the pack compared with the rest of top ten. 

    Utah doesn’t have a signature win, but overall their SOS is within reason and certainly better than even teams ranked above them. Utah has just played a bunch of teams hovering around .500. No Arkansas or Rutgers in conference play. 

    This is what make college footbal interesting, but also annoying. Quality losses, quality wins. What other sport is ever talked about in those terms? 

     

    #112887
    Hal Evans
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    Way too early but interesting…..Utah #10 in Sagarin Basketball ratings

    #112684
    Swoop Doggy Dogg
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    Minnesota’s SOS will improve this last month.

    Also, Utah’s isn’t that bad. Yeah, the Utes don’t have top 25 wins, but overall the SOS is better than Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Baylor, and Clemson according to Sagarin. In the ballpark of LSU, Penn State, ND, and Michigan.

    #112110
    Warrior Ute
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    There is often a complaint about the PAC 12 strength of schedule and it impacting our rankings. I thought I would compare the AP top 10 teams” strengths of schedules as rated by Sagarin and Massey and rank them 1 to 10.

    Sagarin Massey

    LSU 4 3

    Alabama 9 8

    Ohio St 2 4

    Clemson 10 10

    Penn St 5 5

    Georgia 8 9

    Oregon 3 2

    Utah 6 6

    Oklahoma 7 7

    Florida 1 1

    Of one loss teams, both systems rank strongest schedules as follows: Oregon, Utah, Georgia and Oklahoma.

    For interest:

    My kids were taking some college prep stuff recently and we did some study with analogies.

    I used the points awarded in each ranking to see the difference between strength of schedules to create these analogies:

    Massey

    Alabama is to Utah as SMU is to Alabama

    Alabama is to Oregon as Temple is to Alabama

    Sagarin

    Alabama is to Utah as Middle Tennessee is to Alabama

    Alabama is to Oregon as San Jose State is to Oregon

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