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    UteFanatic
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    Your sample size is small, and I read through the Oregon fan responses and there were plenty of griping about the situation, they weren’t all positive. Also, noticed a lot of complaining about the possibility of having to associate with religious universities due to their discriminatory stances, but that conversation was shut down by the moderator before it got out of hand. 

    Outside of that post, there are many Oregon fans that are NOT happy about what is happening. I know several.

    Also, you haven’t seen the real rage come out yet because they think they are going to make it into the B1G. If they don’t, they will meltdown and display a level of self-righteousness and indignation about having to join the Big12 unlike anything you’ve ever seen.

    If you think the general sentiment among Oregon fans is that they’re happy and content about the prospect of joining the Big12, you are quite delusional.

    UteFanatic
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    I don’t see Stanford as an option for the Big12. They’d rather disband their sports program than associate with Big12 schools. 

    SALT LAKE CITY – Silver Waves Media announced the most impactful High Major Assistant Coaches in the NCAA Division I women’s basketball, and associate head coach Gavin Petersen was one of 50 assistants on the list. 

    Petersen is a 19-year veteran of NCAA Division I coaching and is entering his eighth season as an assistant coach for the Utes. Petersen works mainly with post players while coordinating Utah’s defense, and he has helped lead Utah to three postseason runs in his six years there. During the 2021-22 season, he helped the Utes to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2011. 
     
    He also helped guide the Utes to two 18-win seasons, a 20-win season, and their first AP Poll ranking since 2008.

    utahutes.com article

    PhiladelphiaUte
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    You’re quite the apologist, aren’t you.  You even admit that there’s a different set of “Honor Code” rules for athletes than for the remaining student body.  And that’s why Ah You could get caught driving under the influence, and with drug paraphrenalia all over the car, and not get suspended.

    Here’s another set of hypocrisy.  At ybU-p, males can’t have hair that touches their collar.  And they can’t wear a beard without permission.  But the namesake of that institution had long hair and beard.  And so too did Jesus Christ — the man they claim to follow.  And none of those rules exist to obtain entry to the temple.

    Hypocrisy isn’t something that’s reserved only for ybU-p fans on social media.  It’s for everything and everyone associated with that backward and superficial institution.

    chinngiskhaan
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    For any reason, you are (in my possibly wrong opinion) wrong. First and foremost, I dont like the idea of a bunch of onlookers telling people who watched their friend get brutally murdered that they’ve mourned long enough. Who are any of us to suggest how they should or shouldn’t be handling these very traumatic events?

    Second, I think they look awesome. No way everyone on that team doesn’t love those.

    Third, what else would you have preferred? More Ute tribute stuff? More military themed stuff that is loosely associated with the UofU at best? If they are going to do a hand painted helmet thing, why not this??

    *** If the corporate side of the university is pushing this on the team, shame on them forever.

     

     

    chinngiskhaan
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    Few things… Sorry in advance if this sounds overly harsh.

    First: I know several family members/close friends that went to the U and only got stronger spiritually while there. I don’t know any that stopped going to church that weren’t already headed that direction before attending the U. My friends that staying strong in their faith never encountered anti LDS sentiment at the U. I don’t doubt that there are people like that there, why wouldn’t there be? It’s a free thinking institution in SLC, a place founded by the religious group in question?

    I know truckloads of people who have gone to BYU only to later stop attending church. There are a lot of things that go on at BYU and it’s associated schools that make people think twice about church membership.

    Staying faithful has little to nothing to do with where you go to school. Outside influence is rarely ever enough to ruin someone’s faith, or strengthen it beyond the point of vulnerability. That comes from things your daughter will be doing on her own. Her own choices. Adversity is a good thing, not a bad thing. People of our faith believe we came to this earth to experience difficult things. Let your daughter live her life. Let her pray about where to attend school, get her own answer, and attend there. She’ll learn from it one way or the other.

    Second (and most important): Have a little faith. Quit trying to protect your daughter. If her faith is strong enough to overcome trials she may encounter in the world, then she’ll be fine regardless of where she ends up. If it isn’t strong enough, then is she doing the things she needs to do to strengthen it? Yes? She’ll be fine. No? She won’t be fine (in terms of her faith specific to your religion).

    BigUteGuy
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    I attended the U of U from 2002-2008, with a mission in between. I was from out of state and lived in the dorms freshman year, Greek row sophomore year and off campus the rest. To sum up my experience, the U offers everything one could ask/look for, LDS or not. I loved being able to attend Institute, short trax ride to temple square, and experience all that college has to offer all in the same spot. In all my years there, I had one professor make one comment on the first day about how we as students might try to determine if he was active LDS by the clothes he was wearing. I thought it was an odd statement to make and shrugged it off. That was the only thing that I recall ever hearing about the church, associated with someone on the faculty. Nothing but respect from the diverse student body. I had friends at both USU and BYU, which we would visit on occasion. There wasn’t anything going on at the U that wasn’t happening on those campuses.

    #165397
    2008 National Champ
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    You are correct. Schools are not allowed to contact players under scholarship at another school who have not entered the portal. However, I’ve seen a bunch of stories on transfers where they credit either a 7 v 7 coach, High School coach or friend of the family with contacting the new school to find out if there is interest before the player enters his name. If the NCAA had any enforcement power, these would all be violations.

    So while it is good in my mind that players can finally profit from their NIL, the same cheating is still going on. If I was a kid who had a good season, and someone associated with me was able to negotiate a deal for me to change schools, how does that not violate the rules in place? At the same time, if no one is going to enforce the rules, why should I care that I’m breaking them?

    Ute Dub
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    Been upstairs on both the restaurant side and bar side a half dozen times and never recall the sampler, but then again I don’t partake but my business associates do. I’ll have to recommend to them or ask if they have tried it before.  I wish they could get rid of that billboard between the canyon and 8 settlers. Would make for better ambiance.

    younglurch
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    The problem is that the NFL doesn’t have an infrastructure for this in place already (like the NBA with the G-League). It would be extremely expensive to start and too adjacent to their mainstream product to really work. The XFL always winds up failing in part because of this. 

    In my opinion, we are drawing closer to a college football super league. The biggest 20-30 schools coming together and forming their own conference with massive media contracts and payouts. Ideally this conference could split from the NCAA and form their own rules about player pay, transfers, etc. 

    I think universities should just cut the “student-athlete” bs and just make the players employees of the university. Stop forcing them to follow mundane rules and go class. Make the football team associated with the university, but its players are no longer students. The employee-employer relationship is always the one that has existed with student athletes playing major sports like football. 

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