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  • #237966

    In reply to: Bouwmeister to Texas.

    Yngve
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    I can only hope that fans will pressure the NCAA (or possibly legislative intervention) to create some sort of correction in the next couple of years. I can definitely envision a salary cap for the school contributions, and perhaps some sort of combined cap for all $$ associated with a team and/or a requirement that there be a demonstrable quid pro quo for NIL that minimizes the uncontrolled collective $$ (ie, you get paid to be in a commercial, be in a video game, sign merch, but you can’t get paid just to be there).

    I’m even cool with something like the Ken Garff truck lease thing, as it had some tangible upside for the donor (the trucks were plastered with Garff logos).

    NarfUte
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    Even better if he brings Wayshawn Parker…

    https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1867242086388707822

    “Utah is set to hire Washington State running backs coach and associate head coach Mark Atuaia, sources tell
    @CBSSports
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    @247Sports
    .

    Atuaia, who worked at Virginia before Washington State, helped Wazzu rank 11th nationally in scoring offense this year.

    #237613

    In reply to: Bag v Loyalty

    stbone
    Participant

    We are watching numerous players acting like Dorian Singer at Arizona. The bag is tempting, but a starting spot that has you on track for the NFL is worth far more than any one or two year bag and the associated risks of transferring. Dorian Singer’s year chasing the bag in USC may end up costing him tens of millions in lifetime earnings.

    Stone
    Participant

    Totally agree that NIL is a joke. I am no defender of the system. It is laughable that it is under the auspices of name, image, likeness–none of the money being paid is actually tied to that. Like you said, we are not seeing ads with these players. It is straight up bribes. I think it has made a mess of things. I would rather see players become professionals paid by the teams. Do some sort of collective bargaining like the NFL and just make it all a minor league system (loosely associated with the university, if wanted). Universities could then go back to having STUDENT-athletes. No pay. Maybe even no tuition benefits. I don’t know. But the current system is, in my opinion, unsustainable.

    #237458

    Topic: Loyalty

    in forum Football
    Utah
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    This is something that really, really, really bothers me and we’ve seen it a lot the last few weeks with Whittingham. The whole “He has done so much that he should be able to retire/leave when he wants to!” argument.

    I disagree completely. Why are fans the only people asked to be loyal to sports teams? Why is it, “I was born a Philadelphia fan, I must be one forever” when not a soul associated with the sports teams has any loyalty?

    Why are fans asked to be loyal when coaches can leave whenever they want? Why should I be loyal to Whitt, when he has taken other interviews and looked at other jobs and then used those interviews to get more money for himself? Why do I have to be loyal to Whitt when he has shut down the fan experience every chance he has gotten? From injury reports to closing practices to being one of the biggest supporters of a running clock in college football (which has led to the games lasting just as long but with less actual football in the four hours I have to sit in front of the tv to watch)?

    Why do fans have to be loyal to a player who says they are staying and the second some more cash is tossed their way they are gone?

    Nah. Fans, you owe none of these greedy people a thing. If Whitt sucks, boo him. He’s earned it and you’ve earned the right. The second he levered other schools for more money, the second he closed down practices, he opened himself up to the boos. He isn’t owed anything.

    HE OWES US.

    He has shaped the program and taken and taken and taken. We don’t owe him anything. He owes us wins, because he said if he was paid more, if he closed practices, if he didn’t report injuries, he’d win more games.

    So we obliged him and now he is in debt to the school and the fans.

    And same with players. These aren’t kids sacrificing their time and bodies to entertain us anymore. They aren’t working hard in the classroom and then playing and then having a part time job on top of that to pay for things. These are paid professionals who are paid to come to Utah to do a job. And the second they can make more money elsewhere, they bail for that money.

    And I’m not saying they are wrong to do this.

    But I am saying we don’t owe them loyalty, because not a soul up there on the hill, or any other college football team, is doing what they are doing for the fans. They are each doing what they need to do to further their careers. And the fans are just here to fund all of it.

    So, if a player leaves do I wish them success? Honestly…I don’t care. I don’t wish them bad, but I don’t care anymore. I don’t want to hear about how Jackson is doing well on another s**tty team, when he could have stayed here and won the Big 12. I don’t care about where Wilson ends up or how he does.

    You wanna leave? I get it. But don’t expect roses or “retire when he wants” or anything else.

    You’ve been paid and aren’t owed anything.

    The only person who is being screwed in college football is the fans.

    #237332
    jshame17
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    Scalley thing doesn’t make sense to me, he’s the coach in waiting, and the MOST secure on staff no matter what happens.

    Yeah, I was being facetious about Cam, but the change to ”WE” was interesting and overall, pretty poorly executed announcement. Zero energy IMO. And what is the Swoop Associates?

    #236218
    Utah#1
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    Unfortunately the radio silence can be interpreted as, or an indication that Whittingham has failed to lock down the 2nd top OC on the market. OU has theirs and now TT. At this point Utah’s failure to hire a good OC is beginning to look bleak and i seriously doubt any other top candidate is coming to Utah because of Whitt. He’s not going to hire an outsider, but will hire his friends or an associate who will follow his commands whether they work or not. We will see another 5-7 season next year if not worse. I feared this would happen, but many of you Whitt apologist will adamantly disagree.

    CityCreekUte
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    If this season would have met expectations Or even if Utah had a winning record would Utah fans still hate the Big 12?

    With all of my heart. Outside of the 3 teams we came with I want to be associated with any of them from a football or overall athletics standpoint or an academic standpoint and least of all a cultural standpoint. I don’t mind a few schools, Kansas St, Iowa St but hate all of the Texas schools don’t have any connection to the ones on the other side of the country UCF, WVU and really irritated that we got into this s**thole after they replaced their best 2 brands with 4 mid majors. I’d rather be in with Cal Stanford OSU, WSU, ASU, Arizona and Colorado and mountain west teams. It would be a deeper, better, conference.

    #235338

    In reply to: OC list – Bartle

    Tony (admin)
    Keymaster

    I prefer not to patronize entities that associate with the tspp. Call it what you will. I have PTSD.

    #235122

    In reply to: Coach of the future!

    press-on
    Participant

    Brettski,

    You’re way too far over your skis, Man! I’ve covered this before. I have 5 GENERATIONS of UTE blood in my veins. And proud of it! Bet that’s 3 to 4 times at least more than you! But that’s not the point here.

    I ask the hypothetical question to try to get some of you non-thinkers to consider where the program is headed. You may not be aware that the all time LOOSING STREAK for one season at the U belongs to Tom Levat in 1974 .. who was later justifiably fired. Whitt has now unceremoniously tied him for futility. There’s a good chance he will break that record this week! That is totally unacceptable for a proud Utah Program! Period! Full on Exclamation Point!

    The House is on Fire! And some of you are saying ‘until it burns completely down to ashes, I’m on board with Whitt’.

    Makes my wonder who’s really the Troll here. What’s your real Motive? Either you and a few other out- spoken ‘Whitt Homers’ here are associated with the program, pulling down a fat paycheck while Utah football is dying on the vine, or you guys are Trolling the board. From your comments, can’t imagine you really want the Utes to fix the problems and rebuild this failure of a program!

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