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[The Miami Ute]

Jim, you ever hear of the “Golden Rule”? When I was growing up in Miami that was interpreted as “thems that’s got the gold make the rules.” No doubt that there’s a lot of money associated with college football and basketball. The problem is that all of that money is concentrated, relatively speaking, in a few handfuls of programs.

Look at it this way, if college athletes are deemed employees of schools nationwide, and we know that the vast majority of college sports programs do not make money in the current, more equitable system. where’s the money going to come for the Weber States or Idahos or UVUs of the world to both maintain an athletic infrastructure AND play college athletes?

[Ute Dub]

I still feel incredibly fortunate that we were able to join the PAC 12. It felt like Christmas every day during those initial years. I could hardly believe it was happening; I never thought the day would arrive. Since then, the University has grown significantly, with new buildings, improved finances, and greater recognition. The excitement of that 2010 announcement and the holiday-like feeling still lingers for me each year. So, yes, there’s a sense of nostalgia and loss associated with leaving the PAC 12, given how much it has meant to us.

Nevertheless, the University has positioned itself exceptionally well for the transition to the BIG 12 and any potential future expansions. As a Ute fan, I’m grateful for the PAC 12 experience, and I anticipate being equally appreciative of the BIG 12 experience. It presents an opportunity for teams and fan bases unfamiliar with Utah to experience what we have to offer. Hopefully, we’ll extend a warm welcome to them and, after a solid beating in football, send them home with the best possible losing experience.

GO UTES!

[DataUte]

True. And no program, no player really wants to rock the NIL boat or say anything that ‘devalues’ them. I just think these ‘offers’ are potential but rarely realized and money in the athlete’s pocket. Or affiliate deals like the trucks where there is value, but they also have to pay taxes, etc. with their own cash (unless supplemented). I also think there are some conditions associated with some, which doesn’t seem right (you have to start enough, etc. to make value for your NIL for the benefiting party). But mostly it’s just boosters passing money to the athletes above board rather than below the table as before. Where’s momma’s house or paid for car (ala Reggie Bush, SMU)?

[The Miami Ute]

Would you keep a guy that lied to your face and potentially derailed your season by not being honest about his injury situation? I know I wouldn’t. This is not Whitt’s first rodeo. If he didn’t know the extent of Rising’s injury that’s as bad as thinking he could play this year with a blown-out knee. I’m sure that there’s a lot of smoke and innuendos associated with this issue that we’ll never be privy to because it paints a lot of people in a bad light.

[The Miami Ute]

Personally, I don’t think we’re going back to NFL eligible athletes or portal entrants playing routine bowl games. I’m with you though. If the Utes don’t make the CFP, why would anyone travel hundreds (or thousands) of miles, with all of the associated costs, to support a B squad in what’s essentially a meaningless exhibition game? Truth be told, after going to Vegas and seeing the product out on the field, I had kind of buyer’s remorse, and I wasn’t the only one. I think something that coaches sometimes forget is that, yeah, winning is best, but winning and being entertaining is better. Do you think that if people knew we had another year of Barnes or a Barnes equivalent, RES would sell out every game? It would be a test for sure. All I can say is that yesterday’s first half was the most boring and visually painful half of Ute football (given the competition) that I’ve seen since probably the beat downs by TCU in 2010 or Bosie State in 2006.

[The Miami Ute]

Well, I’ve spent the last 15-20 minutes searching on the internet and I haven’t been able to find anything stating that the NCAA has made the rule permanent or even extended it to this bowl season. It’s possible that it could have been just a one off associated with Covid.

[Utah]

Let’s be real. Compared to the NFL, the on field product sucks. It’s no different, skill wise, than the G Leauge or AAA baseball. Maybe even worse. Yet we watch and love it. Why?

1 – It’s local. Traditionally, it was your school. Especially in places like SLC, Provo, Stillwater, etc. You didn’t have a professional team, but you had YOUR football team.

2 – The players were local. Traditionally the kids on the team were local kids. I have never watched high school football and never plan to. But I like to bag on Dalton Schultz for not going to Utah. I love seeing Barton get burned on the Commanders and going, “hey, look, it’s Barton. He’s from SLC.”

3 – It was affordable. NFL games are nuts. All my kids are from Philly. I was going to take my oldest to the Philly/Seattle game until they moved it to Monday night. For the same amount of money, we can go to the Vegas Bowl. You could get cheap seats and afford to take the family.

4 – You could dream of that special season. Even though it wasn’t reality, you could dream about your team having a 1984. You could see the national champion winners from the pre 1970’s and think, “hell if they could win a title, we could get lucky one time.”

5 – Bowl games were a huge deal and you got to play teams you never got to play anymore.

6 – Winning a conference championship gave you a sense of pride as you typically worked with/associated with people from teams in your conference because the game was so local. It gave you something to talk about.

All of that is gone now. All of it. It’s not local anymore. We will play in Orlando next year. That is about as non-local as you can get. I don’t think I’ll ever run into a UCF fan here on the west coast. That game will come and go and no one will care. I’ll watch it, but I won’t talk about. Here in Seattle, there are OSU, Oregon, UW, WSU, USC, UCLA grads everywhere. There is always someone that cares about the Utah game and visa versa. Not anymore.

The transfer portal and NIL have taken away the local aspect. Even the bigger conferences has as well. There is so much turnover on teams, how do you ever learn who was what? The days of having Marcus Williams play like absolute horse s**t his freshman year and get better then elite are gone. The days of Devin Lloyd sitting for two years, having the starter quit and Lloyd, who knows the system inside and out, step in and excel are gone. A game that already is worse than the NFL will get even sloppier.

And the money…you could relate to the college kids. We all have memories of college and the struggle and working hard to make something for yourself. A 19 year old backup QB making a million dollars at Utah who might not even be any good? How do you relate to that? How do you have patience with that? How do you root for them to get better? The expectation is that they are good and ready to go.

Take Wilson. He is a legacy kid. He should come in, sit behind Rising, maybe sit a year behind Rose and then push to start his JR year, take the job and be successful and we all love him and talk about him for decades. Instead, he will come in, make some money and if he doesn’t start in 2025, he’s gone. And he will probably transfer to another school and then another before starting as a RS JR at BYU. And if he struggles as all young players do, we will all bag on him. That sucks for a kid who grew up dreaming about playing for Utah. That amount of pressure isn’t realistic.

The games aren’t that affordable any more. Enough said. The bowl games suck now. FSU is in the Orange Bowl and there have been rumblings of them not even going. That’s insane.

And the emphasis on national titles has ruined conference championship games and with how Utah was treated in 2008 and how FSU was treated this year…there is no chance of a special season. You can win it all if you are a blue blood. Outside of that, if FSU can get left out, then Utah 100% will.

This isn’t college football and I’m not sure how long this version can last. Nothing that made it great is still there. And if I want to watch good football, I’ll just watch the NFL.

[pedro]

Or maybe he didn’t want to keep differentiating b/t the three different Sanders associated w the buffs.

Or he does that every week, which is what I’ve always noticed.

[The Miami Ute]

Absolutely…if he wants to stay on the West Coast he can probably have his pick of all the deep-pocketed teams from the PAC that are going to the B1G. I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago and, understandably, it didn’t go over well with the UteHub crowd. However, viewed objectively,it would be to Rising’s best interest to move on to a program that features offense if he wants to showcase himself for a possible NFL career. If he goes to one of USC, UW, or UO, there’s really no guilt associated with the move since they won’t be in the same conference.

[The Miami Ute]

I don’t want to start a downvote avalanche…at the same time, and I love Whitt (looking at his framed autographed photo in my office right now) and have the highest respect for him, there’s a bunch of stuff associated with how the QB situation has been handled since Cam got injured in the Rose Bowl that just puzzles me. I guess you just have to chalk it up to how Whitt conducts business and to what he believes is best for the team.