Aaron Roderick
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UteThunderParticipant
Coach A-Rod wasn’t very highly thought of by most Ute fans. The criticism was always that his position groups were the weakest and most underperforming on the team and/or showed little to no improvement from one year to the next. And A-Rod was to blame.
If the BYU QBs perform well under him, I wonder if the opinions of his coaching abilities will change.
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Virginia UteParticipant
Well, I saw a practice video where Mangum was practically side-arming the ball on his release. Don’t remember seeing that last year. Thanks, Roderick.
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UteThunderParticipant
That would actually be an improvement. Mangum looked like he was shot-putting the football last year.
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ironman1315Participant
They won’t.
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UtahParticipant
I agree that ARod was the problem. Look at our offense the UW game and on. It was a lot better than the beginning of the year.
But, I’ll give ARod credit when deserved. His four minute offense to end games, whether to go get a score or keep the other team from getting the ball back, was elite.
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AnonymousInactive
Very astute observation. We certainly haven’t yet seen that from Taylor. Whether that’s attributable to Tyler’s inexperience or Taylor’s scheme is something we’ll have more understanding of this year.
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UtahManPodcastParticipant
I think it would need to take a few years of QBs performing well to change the opinions of Utah fans. I think the overall feel is he is great recruiter but fell short as an QC and QB coach. I try and give A-Rod slack because of things he had to deal with off the field during his time at Utah and I think that is one reason why Whitt gave him a lot of opportunities IMO.
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stonguseParticipant
My biggest beef with Arod is his inability to adapt. It’s one of the reasons we kept falling off a cliff at the end of the season. We’d be doing well and then teams would start to get a lot of tape on our offense and we’d get figured out. Arod had no answer after that. Seems like once a season we’d hear about opposing players calling out on defense, knowing exactly what we were going to do.
I rewatched a game against Oregon St (I think in ’16) that we won but it was unnecessarily close at the end. We ran like a dozen unique plays and of those 4 or 5 of them represented 3/4 of the calls. That’s not going to get it done at this level.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Compare Chow to Arod playcalling. Even with very very limited talent Chow’s offense built towards something and made sense. I saw this last season a lot with TT which at least makes me hopeful. Combined with dynamic talent in Moss, Simpkins, Covey and Huntley it should be pretty fun to watch. Add in all of the talent like Boyd and Enis? Defenses should have a hard time scheming with TT’s vision.
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UtahParticipant
Man, Chow was amazing. I said it the day he was hired by Hawaii and I’ll say it forever. The worst thing to happen to Utah football was when Hawaii hired Chow instead of Sitake.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Wrong category. Getting far too much of this crap lately.
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UteThunderParticipant
You’ve got to be kidding me. This is about a former Utah coach and the premise is how Utah fans feel about that coach. This has absolutely nothing to do with BYU other than that happens to be where he landed his next coaching gig. I would have asked the same question if he was coaching at any other school.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Your whole thought is if the TDS QBs improve how we will think about it. Honestly I won’t give two s**ts because I plan to watch ONE TDS game all year. That will be their final one where Utah beats them like a drum. There is your answer to how he does at TDS.
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UteThunderParticipant
Wrong. My whole thought is that most Ute fans think/thought A-Rod sucked as a Utah coach. If he goes on to have successful players under him at his new job (the school is irrelevant), will the opinions of Ute fans change regarding his coaching abilities?
I could have made a similar post about Brian Johnson going to Mississippi State (though he wasn’t hated like A-Rod). Would that be a post about MSU or a former Utah coach?
Don’t be so sensitive.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Haha me sensitive? Ironic much?
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UteThunderParticipant
Yes, you. Irony? Not so much. Have a nice day.
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noneyadbParticipant
Brigham has a severely weaker schedule compared to what Utah played with ARod, and last year was horrendous. What are you going to base “improvement” on?
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UteThunderParticipant
I didn’t say “improvement”, I said “perform well”. I would base that on if his QBs perform better for him there than they did when he was here.
Yes, there will be a difference between the schedules he’ll face there and the schedules he faced most recently here. But there is adequate grounds for comparison. A-Rod was our OC while we were still in the MWC and then again in the Pac-12. At BYU his players will face a schedule that is basically 50/50 between the two. So we can compare the games against P5 teams to the Pac-12 schedule and the games against the G5 teams against the time he spent here while we were in the MWC. But it might not need to be that complicated. If his QBs are putting up 300 yards/game with a 3:1 TD to INT ratio, it will be pretty obvious. Likewise, if they average 175 yards/game with a 1:1 TD to INT ratio, it will be obvious.
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