And it’s official

[Central Coast Ute]

Here’s the list of demands from the PAC-12 players. The players tribune doesn’t say how many signed onto it, but other articles I’ve read said over one hundred, which doesn’t seem to be a lot to me.
PAC-12 players demands

[Distantute]

What a joke. Next man up. Would love to see quickly they admit mistake when they have to pay for their own education and live life as a normal student.

[RiseasUtes]

I feel that the insurance they are asking for is a reasonable request, the 50/50 revenue split not so much.

[Larry B]

Let’s see how many of those 100 players decide to play when the Pac12 calls their bluff.

If any of them feel like they even have a shot at the NFL, they’ll play.

[dystopiamembrane]

I love the preamble.

[Larry B]

I love how they say “we are not your entertainment”.

Ummm… Well… You kind of are. You are literally playing a game for people’s entertainment.

[Central Coast Ute]

That one was an little weird. That’s like an actor or musician saying they’re not our entertainment. People pay to watch football for entertainment. Without those people paying, there is no football, no scholarships and chance at the NFL.

[dystopiamembrane]

Kristeva and Riefenstahl come to mind.

[dystopiamembrane]

Amen. I am impressed.

[GameForAnyFuss]

Yeah, that one is strange. Many college athletes watch a lot of ESPN – I wonder if most of them know what the “E” in ESPN stands for…

[dystopiamembrane]

Have you thought about asking them?

[PhiladelphiaUte]

There’s no “e” in “Tiam”.

[UtMtBiker]

A lot of this makes perfect sense. Some of it is just plain silly. Like the black players summit. They could have a summit now and invite anyone they want. It wouldn’t be hard to find a sponsor and a camps to host it.

Do don’t know why they would want the Pac12 involved in it anyway.

6 year scolly is interesting but they should have to play for 6 imo. Wouldn’t mind seeing some 7th year seniors play. At that point the NFL wouldn’t really be an option for them anyway.

Right to profit from their own likenesses is a no brainer and going to happen very soon anyway.

Agree that it’s BS that they aren’t allowed legal representation when being asked to sign legally binding documents.

[Central Coast Ute]

I agree. The part about legal representation shouldn’t even be an issue. That should be allowed. The one time transfer I’m not opposed to either.
One that I dont understand is the ability to sit out during the pandemic and not lose their scholarships. The PAC-12 has already guaranteed that to them so I’m not sure why they would feel the need to throw that in there.

Edit: if they allow 7 year players, the TDS would be full of 40 year olds.

[UtMtBiker]

Who signed it? Who exactly is the “we”?

[Central Coast Ute]

That’s the million dollar question. On Twitter, I see Ute players training and talking about how they want to play. Granted, those are mostly starters and guys who have a shot to move on to the NFL. I’m guessing this is coming from mostly back ups, which if enough of them refuse to play, a team won’t be able to take the field.

[CB]

“the central issue (the group) wants to address with the league and its schools is racial injustice.”

What the f*ck does that even mean? Literally the most vague demand ever. How is a college football conference going to solve racial injustice for these guys? And what racial injustice are they facing? They get to play in a Power 5 conference with thousands of fans cheering them on and with the potential to go play in the NFL and make millions of dollars. Can’t demand fixes to racial injustice when they aren’t facing it and when they don’t make it clear what that even means lol….

Also just read an article, Jevon Holland 4star Saftey at Oregon is the most prominent player that we know of so far in this group. He has a shot to go pro potentially as a 1st round pick. Wtf is he doing?? He’s actually going to screw up his shot at making millions of dollars in the NFL. Someone wanna explain to me what racial injustice he is facing as a beloved football player for one of the most nationally recognized universities. Also, i’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Oregon takes extreme care of their athletes, especially their football players. I just hate this stuff and i’m so sick of the race thing being injected into everything in such a random general manner. The 5 KKK members down in Missouri aren’t oppressing the future million dollar atheletes on the west coast. So sick of this s**t…

[CB]

Edit: here is the article I read on 247sports:

Pac-12-college-football-players-2020-season-opt-out-Jevon-Holland-Oregon-Ducks-safety-149783186

[dystopiamembrane]

At least you have your head on straight.

[Charlie]

First, we have a crisis and need everyone working together to make the season work. Adding stress and obstacles can sink the season and damage the interest in sports in general which in turn diminishes opportunity for athletes for some time. Among students, scholarship athletes are the very privileged class already. They may risk support from the student body by insisting that that gap grows exponentially and at the expense of the needs of others on campus.

We are already on track to make more changes than any year I can recall. We are making these changes in clearly the most difficult year for sports I can recall. The public may agree this is just the moment to change everything that is possible to change without consideration of limits, or the public may become disappointed and upset, feeling that too much has been asked of their institutions and supporters and simply begin to lose interest. These developments will be noticed by many that currently sit on the fence in the debate that universities are losing focus on the primary objective of education to accommodate college athletics. Many other campus interest groups may be eager to prove they are better suitors for attention and support.

I hope we can all process the moment that may come from pulling down too much status quo too fast. I wonder that while oddly supporting so many of the current change objectives. I also wonder how many fans will feel a need to find a replacement that contains less conflict.

[Charlie]

First, we have a crisis and need everyone working together to make the season work.  Adding stress and obstacles can sink the season and damage the interest in sports in general which in turn diminishes opportunity for athletes for some time.  Among students, scholarship athletes are the very privileged class already.  They may risk support from the student body by insisting that that gap grows exponentially and at the expense of the needs of others on campus.

We are already on track to make more changes than any year I can recall.  We are making these changes in clearly the most difficult year for sports I can recall.  The public may agree this is just the moment to change everything that is possible to change without consideration of limits, or the public may become disappointed and upset, feeling that too much has been asked of their institutions and supporters and simply begin to lose interest.  These developments will be noticed by many that currently sit on the fence in the debate that universities are losing focus on the primary objective of education to accommodate college athletics.   Many other campus interest groups may be egger to prove they are better suitors for attention and support.

I hope we can all process the moment that may come from pulling down too much status quo too fast.  I wonder that while oddly supporting so many of the current change objectives.  I also wonder how many fans will feel a need to find a replacement that contains less conflict.

[Utesbyfive]

They have no idea how endowments work, and 50% of revenue would end college sports. Period. This is a joke.

[dystopiamembrane]

I’m pretty sure it’s not a joke.

[Trailgoat]

A lot of colleges are going to be in big financial trouble. There is a siginificant number of non-athletic funded college students opting out for a “gap year” as they call it due to Universities requiring full tuition for mostly or all online courses.

Big problem is the mixed messages from the Universities and no defined plan of how the classes are going to work especially after the s**t show online experience last Spring and over Summer. In my kids circle of friends in college at least 80% are opting out this year to work or do internships because of the poor quality of education experience online. Nothing against online education, it’s just not what they signed up and are paying for.

The UofU recently dropped on students the VP election debate will be on campus requiring students to be completely off campus another roughly two weeks before and after the debate this is in addition to a half ass hybrid model while requiring full tuition, room, and board for students living on campus.

What genius made the decision to have the VP debate at the UofU campus? Point is, this is going to be a wide spread financial disaster beyond college athletics. Scholarship athletes making demands may in the long get what they ask for with no option to play anyway. 

[UrbanLiar]

I have 2 kids living on campus and neither have heard about a requirement to vacate the campus for the VP debate. Where did you hear this?

[Central Coast Ute]

Looks like the chips have already started to fall.

This is the problem with college athletics. This is why the boycott exists. https://t.co/sd8mWmvzxX

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) August 2, 2020

[SkinyUte]

Someone wanna explain to me what racial injustice he is facing as a beloved football player for one of the most nationally recognized universities.

Being a football player doesn’t automatically exempt someone from inequality. They may not face the same challenges as others, but to immediately dismiss any concerns about inequity simply because someone plays football is silly. It’s also entirely possible that he’s not even speaking for himself, but for others (who don’t have as public of a voice) are facing challenges of systemic inequality.

The idea that someone can’t speak up on social issues unless they are personally, directly being oppressed is nonsense.

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