Asiata

[uteinzoobcounty]

Send positive thoughts, energy, prayers, and whatever you believe in to the Asiata family!

There was a shooting today, and Matt Asiatas son Ephraim was shot and is in critical condition. 

[MauchDawgUte]

Wow…absolutely horrific if true. I heard about the shooting but hadn’t seen any names released. 🙁

[MauchDawgUte]

“FOX 13 has learned the victims were football players at Hunter High School, one 14 years old, while the other was 15. The boy who was injured is 15 years old and currently in stable condition.”

Sounds like the injured boy is stable which is good.

[uteinzoobcounty]

All of them were kids, it’s just sad that it always has to resort to a gun.  2 kids lost their lives, I grew up in salt lake and lost a friend because the other guy couldn’t handle losing a fight. It’s a lot more common these days even since I’ve been in high school.  We as a society have to do better. 

[Tony (admin)]

Maybe someday we will stop glorifying the gangster mentality. 

[uteinzoobcounty]

Honestly a song by Ice Cube describes it perfectly, Hood Mentality

Kids don’t think of the consequences. 

[Charlie]

If they don’t think about the consequences you need to evaluate the consequences. Simple math, as consequences increase frequency of the negative outcome will decrease. There exist a level of consequence that will deliver an acceptable frequency of that behavior. There are also levels of consequence that will dramatically increase the frequency of the behavior. Determine the frequency that is acceptable then be disciplined enough to adjust consequences until we gain that desired frequency.

[therealu]

And/or maybe having more guns than people in this country isn’t a great thing when it comes to gun deaths. 

Men/people have and will continue to make irrational, emotional, testosterone driven decisions, but we just happen to have access to an absurd amount of tools that can easily kill. Forget about fighting with fists. 

And I say this as a gun owner.

[RustyShackleford]

Or maybe having an entire culture that glorifies drugs, sex, murder and committing crimes isn’t a great thing… kids are trying to emulate the gangsters they see and think are cool.

[therealu]

Gangsters? What about all of the school shootings that are primarily done by conservative white kids? 

Why is it that the US is the only “civilized” country with this level of gun voilence? We must have more mentally ill, or more people in this country that glorifies “drugs, sex, and murder” …right? 

[RustyShackleford]

I’m talking about this case in particular, and you need to turn off MSNBC.

Guns are used to save more lives than they take in the USA and you can view that statistics on the FBIs website

[UrbanLiar]

Thanks Rusty! I don’t watch MSNBC, but I’ll convey your info to my wife who was literally shot at by a deranged gunman in downtown SLC, right before that gunman killed an innocent woman that just returned from maternity leave. I feel so much better now.

[RustyShackleford]

I’m sorry your wife had to go through that. She should get a concealed carry gun and become proficient with it.

[UrbanLiar]

Thanks again Rusty! So your advice is the standard gun rights advice that everyone should just get a gun and always carry it with them. What a lovely society!

[Itacoatiara22]

You sound really intelligent. Blame the actions of someone on the tool they used? How dumb can you get? Hey, in case you missed the story, a car took off and plowed a bunch of people in a parade all by itself over Christmas.

[Ute Dub]

You understand that “all the school shootings” are like the smallest portion of gun deaths, right? And no, the statistics are not in your favor that they are done by conservative white kids. STOP being so RACIST and Bias. 

[Brettski]

Lol “conservative white kids” shooting up al the schools. Get that racist crap out of here.

[dystopiamembrane]

Regarding the question of mental illness in the US, I would recommend a treatise entitled Industrial Society and Its Future.

[UtahFanSir]

Actually a report came out a few days ago that analyzed the gun database and deaths. This is better revealing and detailed work. It showed precisely what you said. More guns, more murder. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/gun-sales-murder-spike/621196/

[UtahFanSir]

Double post.

[dystopiamembrane]

Gangsterism is simply another form of control of capital.

[dystopiamembrane]

Look at the history of violence perpetrated by US capitalism when that form of control of capital feels it has been slighted in some manner.

[dystopiamembrane]

Ask a Guatemalan. 😉

[dystopiamembrane]

[pedro]

Socialism literally is Gangsterism, if you’re talking classic gangsterism that is.  In that everyone gets collected from, those in power control the distribution of assests.  Hard workers get punished and others reap the rewards.  

[dystopiamembrane]

That is an excellent elucidation, @pedro. 

[RustyShackleford]

Issac Asiata posted on instagram that he his praying for his nephew so I think it really is him

[Sir Potsdam]

Aren’t Matt and Isaac cousins?

[pedro]

Yes

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