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    • 09/09/2018 at 1:40 PM #66633
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      UteFanatic
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      I am with Hans on this one, this truly is a baffling playcall.  2nd & 2 and Troy Taylor dials up an out route?  This is unforgivable, a P5 OC should not be making errors like this.

    • 09/09/2018 at 1:44 PM #66639
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      Utahute72
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      I disagree with Hans on this one. If they are stacking the box you can’t run up the middle unless you have complete dominance on the lines which we did not have. The route was open and you have to trust your QB can make that throw and the WR can make the catch. That should have been a completion and you move the chains.

      If you look at the tape that would have been a two yard loss if we run it.

      • 09/09/2018 at 1:57 PM #66644
        UteFanatic
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        The running game was working at this point in the game.  In addition, Huntley was overthrowing receivers and the receivers were dropping passes like crazy.  

      • 09/09/2018 at 3:16 PM #66687
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        jrj84105
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        I disagree with Hans and Taylor.  It’s 2nd and 2  and the run game is working well.  They have 7 in the box.  The correct call is pass but not a 4 yard out.  This is when you have to take a shot downfield and go for an explosive play.

        • 09/09/2018 at 3:54 PM #66692
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          Utahute72
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          Or throw one over the middle to the zone vacated by the blitzers. They were susceptible to that all night, yet we seldom went there. One reason may be Huntley’s innate inaccuracy, which means they use the outs so if he overthrows it goes out of bounds. But in this case it’s 4th down.

      • 09/09/2018 at 5:22 PM #66716
        prestitute
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        Agreed. This one really looks like it on the receiver. That should have been an easy first down, and the coverage looked favorable.

      • 09/09/2018 at 8:50 PM #66748
        WhiteyFisk
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        Correct. The reason they’re stacking the box is cause they don’t respect Huntley’s arm. He can’t throw accurately. 

    • 09/09/2018 at 1:47 PM #66641
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      EagleMountainUte
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      The play worked though. They even pulled a lineman and they thought run. Catch the f**king BALL!! It was right in the basket. 

      • 09/09/2018 at 1:57 PM #66645
        UteFanatic
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        That’s the problem, though.  WRs weren’t catching passes.  How many drops did we have before this play?

        • 09/09/2018 at 2:05 PM #66652
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          EagleMountainUte
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          So let me get this straight good pocket good timing lead to a wide open wr and the PLAYCALL meant it would be a drop?  You understand the mental gymnastics you are putting yourself through to come to that conclusion? 

          • 09/09/2018 at 2:08 PM #66654
            UteFanatic
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            You’re right, the playcalling was perfect.  The offense looked great!

            • 09/09/2018 at 2:20 PM #66663
              EagleMountainUte
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              Not what I am saying. I am saying Hans is wrong using this as an example. Drop passes are so hard to analyze. That was a perfect pass to the sticks to get a first down. I think this was Boyd had a big catch the next series as well. Hans doesn’t even seem convinced in this video of why it was a bad play call.

              It is like how we bitch about the first series. Clear hold/PI no call on third down leads to an early punt. We go well it is the playcalling. You can’t blame the OC for s**t that isn’t his fault. Players got to make plays at some point. Edit: Sometimes Refs gotta throw flags.

              • 09/09/2018 at 2:50 PM #66676
                UteFanatic
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                I hear you.  I am not an Xs and Os expert by any means; it just made sense to me what Hans was saying.  I can see that you disagree with him about his conclusions on this playcall, and that’s fine.  🙂

                • 09/09/2018 at 3:02 PM #66681
                  EagleMountainUte
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                  Well if the logic is don’t throw the ball because wideouts drop the ball what down can you depend on them?  Only when you HAVE to? It was only a short time later that Boyd made a great catch and run. 

                  NIU was keying on Moss all game this was a great play call just one thing went wrong. 

            • 09/09/2018 at 3:55 PM #66693
              Utahute72
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              I believe what he is saying is that coaching can only get you into a good play that should work, the ability to complete the play in on the players.

    • 09/09/2018 at 2:02 PM #66648
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      GameForAnyFuss
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      No, no, and no.

      If you want to criticize a play call, criticize the endzone fade route on 3rd and 6 from ~30 yard line. And we’ve done it 3 times in 2 games (twice against Weber, once last night)!

      I’m not a big play call critic guy, but when you have one shot at 6 yards, why oh why would you throw a low-percentage pass to the endzone?

      • 09/09/2018 at 2:05 PM #66653
        EagleMountainUte
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        Hans has been lazy af on Utah this season. I am watching his other videos now. That one was straight up whack. 

      • 09/09/2018 at 3:18 PM #66688
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        jrj84105
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        That is the correct playcall for 2nd and 2 when the D is sold out on the run.

    • 09/09/2018 at 6:37 PM #66734
      Tony (admin)
      Keymaster

      If he catches the ball would that make it a good call? I think some quick slants when they’re playing the run are easy peasy, but we seem to not ever do that.

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