Does the Big12 stay a P5 conference after they add 4 of the following teams
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AZUTEParticipant
BYU, Boise St, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, UCF,
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CincyUteParticipant
Yeeaaaaaaah no.
Seriously though, it would be a very good conference. Not many bottom feeders. It doesn’t have the appeal of a sexy flagship team, but they could probable earn their way in over time.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
That travel schedule would blow for the players and fans.
Except for Poo Poo you know because the world is their fanbase.
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PhiladelphiaUteParticipant
Absolutely NOT! You can’t make a P5 league out of midmajors. And for the record, there’s no way a league would include ybU-p/Boise St AND WVU/Cincy/UCF. Just look at a map. You’ll see.
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Hellhound152Participant
You seem really passionate about this subject. The coalition has done it before when Miami, Va. Tech, and BC left the Big East for the ACC. You do realize there are these things called airliners that can take a human from SLC to Cincy in 3 hours… Map proximity is for Bus Leagues in the 60’s.
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2008 National ChampParticipant
the logistics of playing a game doesn’t just happen on airliners. all of the team and medical staff equipment travels by semi.
that was one of the issues for rescheduling games in 2020.
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Hellhound152Participant
You have got to be joking. Equipment can be anywhere in the country in 4 days. If FCS teams can do it on a weeks notice a FBS team can figure out logistics in it’s own conference.
I get it, it is BYU, we hate BYU, boo fricken hoo. History has shown that the haves take care of the haves and there are 8 haves left…
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Central Coast UteParticipant
Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico are all further away from Hawaii than Utah and Idaho are from West Virginia.
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Hellhound152Participant
That is a complicated question with an even more complicated answer. Looking at past behavior all of the “traditional” BCS teams had landing places in the A5 before they shot the Big East in the head…
By that same token they completely thwarted the Big East’s attempt to save itself by adding “top” non BCS schools from accross the nation to fill the void. But only after Syracuse, WVU, Rutgers, and Pitt had an exit strategy. Louisville almost got left out to dry.
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Central Coast UteParticipant
Just look to the BIG East and you have your answer. It’s really that simple and not complicated at all.
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DallasParticipant
Needs a flagship team or two.
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StoneParticipant
I saw an article that included a pretty compelling argument for expanding to a 16 team conference, then doing scheduling pods – which would make the travel a lot more bearable. The west pod was UNLV, BYU, CSU, and SDSU.
Not sure if it would be a P5 league, but adding the top AAC and MWC teams would create such a huge drop-off beyond the Big12, that it might work to keep the Big12 viewed as a P5 conference.
Here is the article: Reason to expand to 16
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dystopiamembraneBlocked
The P5/G5/FBS/FCS divide is bulls**t. Football is football is football.
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noneyadbParticipant
I’m sure the SEC will claim P5 status for them and many more
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SandersParticipant
That would make a good basketball conference.
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JohnnyBlocked
I would be interested. I’m not a player hater. We need leagues where players can flourish. I’m definitely down with giving them a piece of the pie in that arrangement. The 4 I would add:
BYU, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston.
Probably the biggest markets to save the Big 12.
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