Horse collar ot no?

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- 09/12/2017 at 8:31 PM #40916
  
  PlainsUte
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  New definition of horse collar includes tackling by grabbing the jersey in the “nameplate area”. So is this the nameplate area or not. In subsequent images the jersey stretches so the top of the shoulder pad is exposed and it looks like he’s grabbing the top of the shirt sleeve but that seems to be because of the stretching and twisting of the jersey toward McCormick’s right shoulder.
- 09/12/2017 at 8:43 PM #40917
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  Tony (admin)
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  Red goggles: yes
  Blue goggles: no
- 09/12/2017 at 8:45 PM #40918
  
  Utah
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  I think that he lets go it’s not a horse collar.
- 09/12/2017 at 10:13 PM #40921
  
  Utahute72
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  Yea, I didn’t see that as a horse collar. But I also agreed that they got the sack/fumble call right, so what do I know.
- 09/12/2017 at 10:36 PM #40923
  
  Grimmetal
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  If I recall correctly, he wasn’t brought down to the ground with the move. Did it contribute to him losing the ball? Possibly. Just feels like a grey area. If the sides were switched, I probably wouldn’t call it one.
  
  The BYU player grabbed him up by the shoulder and kind of pulled him back, let go and then went low to finish the tackle.
- 09/12/2017 at 11:40 PM #40925
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  EagleMountainUte
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  Absolutely PAC12 refs are idiots. But live I didn’t think so.
  
  i noticed the PAC said they made an error in the ucla game yet never corrected the error on Utah’s overturned touchdown.
- 09/13/2017 at 7:31 AM #40934
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  dwainegf
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  It is a horse collar violation. The refs missed the call. Having said that, there is no way to get every call correct. However, I think the PAC 12 refs are possibly the worst in the country. Too many missed calls. Too many marginal calls. Too many picked up flags. Having a ref pick up a flag causes me to wonder why the flag was thrown to begin with. If the ref is not 100% certain on the call, the flag should stay in his/her pocket. I would love to watch a game and not notice the refs at all. No controversial calls, no overturned calls, no blatantly missed calls…..
  - 09/13/2017 at 8:29 AM #40938
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    EagleMountainUte
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    That BYU game went on forever. It felt like every other play was a review and a little conference between what the call was. Disrupted Utah’s offensive rhythm a lot.
- 09/13/2017 at 7:47 AM #40936
  
  TheJuggernaut
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  It’s not a horse collar, the no call was correct. While he does grab the jersey in the nameplate area, he lets go, and McCormick falls forward. The rule states you must grab the player AND immediately pull the player down. The rule was put in place to prevent knee and ankle injuries that were occurring when players were being pulled down from behind. Here’s the wording of the rule:
  
  ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar
  of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the
  shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down.
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