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    • 01/28/2017 at 5:18 PM #24283
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      RedRocks
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      I don’t mind this website having political/religious/byu discussions (yes, I lumped them together ;), but I would like to propose that these three categories be blocked by default for all new users and all those who visit the site but do not log in.

      My reason for this is to not drive away would be UteHub users and new members.

      What do you think? Can this be done with this platform?

      Thanks!

    • 01/28/2017 at 5:20 PM #24284
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      Utah
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      Here’s my proposition: The next person to complain about politics while not posting in the politics forum or just unchecking the politics forum be banned for 1 week. 

      • 01/28/2017 at 5:35 PM #24289
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        norm
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        He’s right though.  Especially because those that don’t have accounts can’t just uncheck the politics category…

        • 01/28/2017 at 5:36 PM #24290
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          Utah
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          I do agree with what both of you have said. I’ve always said that we need to hide the crazy. 

      • 01/28/2017 at 6:02 PM #24293
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        RedRocks
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        I am a pretty reasonable guy and, while I may not respect one’s opinion, I respect their right to their own opinion. If you notice, I neither complained about the posts nor my ability to check/uncheck them; I simply presented a potential solution to a potential issue for potential UteHub users.

        Cheers!

    • 01/28/2017 at 5:57 PM #24292
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      Tacoma Ute
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      Excellent idea. Maybe those categories could be put in a page that you have to click on to access instead of having the posts show up on the home page or recent posts page.

       

      The main purpose of this site is obviously to get together to discuss Utah athletics. IMHO we should want to encourage more people to come here and post. I don’t see the benefit of berating those who would prefer to not have to wade through political bickering. I’d hate to see poster after poster disappear like has been happening on UFN for several years.

    • 01/28/2017 at 6:52 PM #24299
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      Uteified
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      Agree 100%.  Those three categories are the exact reason that I stopped going to Utefans and started coming here. 

    • 01/28/2017 at 6:54 PM #24301
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      5DollarShake
      Member

      Brilliant. I just joined to support this plan. I come to this site to get a quick survey of the Ute News of the day, and the last two days have had some fairly good Ute news related to recruiting, but I’ve had to go to twitter to get it because of all the kvetching. Unfortunately, there’s a ugly online contingent that thinks Ute forums are 4chan. Tony, please put them in the corner?

    • 01/28/2017 at 7:27 PM #24309
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      Stradlater
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      Good idea. Keep it off the front page. Religion and politics is low hanging fruit for trolls who seem to have migrated over here.

    • 01/28/2017 at 7:31 PM #24311
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      Tacoma Ute
      Participant

      Yep. Put ’em in the basement or the attic or the storm cellar. Those who want to go there can do so to there heart’s content.

      • 01/28/2017 at 7:50 PM #24316
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        AZswayze
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        Call it the cesspool, seriously. I love the political talk, but it would be fitting and amusing.

        • 01/28/2017 at 9:09 PM #24345
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          pics
          Participant

          I like the idea and love the name!

          • 01/28/2017 at 10:01 PM #24363
            jrj84105
            Participant

            The name is taken- 🙂

    • 01/28/2017 at 7:51 PM #24317
      Tacoma Ute
      Participant

      Salty Utes already did that. 🙂

    • 01/28/2017 at 8:52 PM #24337
      Tacoma Ute
      Participant

      uofuboard.com

    • 01/28/2017 at 9:07 PM #24344
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      Tony (admin)
      Keymaster

      I’m not opposed to this concept. I thought we were all a great bunch of Ute fans, getting along well until recently.  The bitching and attacking back and forth has bummed me out.  I’ve honestly never seen anyone arguing online about politics change their mind or beliefs, ever.  And now tonight a user has just DM’d me asking to have their account deactivated.

      To pull off this idea there are a lot of logistical things that would have to happen.  I’d have to force a category setting for every new user in order to make the default home page not show politics or the byu category or whatever.  That’s doable, and will take time and eat up db space. Not the end of the world.  On 2nd thought, I could have a “default” setting like I do now, and they would have to turn on those categories.  Maybe it wouldn’t be that hard.  I’d have to dig deeper into the code.

      One catch, is that only the home page will be affected.  The recent-posts page and any sub forum page will not see those changes.  Nor does the capability to turn off categories in those areas under the forum menu (not the home page) exist, and I’m not sure I could make that happen very easily.

      Honestly I could see creating a whole 2nd forum or even site for that stuff which would completely separate it from the Ute discussions.  That’s a whole other…. something.

      • 01/28/2017 at 10:30 PM #24368
        jrj84105
        Participant

        This is exactly how SaltyUtes is set up.  Unfortunately nobody seems to be aware of the Cesspool category so the site isn’t really serving it’s initial intended purpose of pulling off and sequestering religion/politics/BYU stuff from Utefans and Utahby5.

        • 01/28/2017 at 10:47 PM #24369
          5DollarShake
          Member

          All the other forums have an inferior format to UteHub. IMHO.

    • 01/28/2017 at 9:10 PM #24346
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      Tony (admin)
      Keymaster

      More thoughts… if a user is a “guest” I could make the home page query only Ute related. Then if the user is logged in the default would be all categories until they make a change.  That wouldn’t be terribly difficult, if you like brain surgery and stuff.

    • 01/28/2017 at 9:24 PM #24351
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      Tacoma Ute
      Participant

      I’m tempted to cut Xmission a check so all the mean spirited political bickering would migrate back there. This site had such a good positive vibe and it fell off the precipice in the last couple days. Maybe an all out ban on politics and religion would be the answer. Hell, I dunno. Sports messages boards are supposed to be fun and kind of an escape from life’s tougher issues. I’ve surfed dozens of pro and college message boards and I’ve never seen any who have as much political bickering as Ute boards. I’ve never seen any remotely close.

      • 01/28/2017 at 9:28 PM #24353
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        Tony (admin)
        Keymaster

        Well that may not be a case of non-payment. It may actually be broken.

      • 01/28/2017 at 10:52 PM #24370
        5DollarShake
        Member

        TBH, it’s not hard to identify the UF.N bad apples.

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