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    • #234803
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      The Miami Ute
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      The hits just keep on coming from the Big 12 refs…doing everything in their power to keep a Big 12 team eligible for the CFP.

    • #234804
      9 5
      EagleMountainUte
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      That was stupid by Bottari. Good call in my book. Poorly coached team makes those kind of plays.

    • #234807
      8 3
      Utah
      Participant

      This. It’s so obvious. Every close call against Utah. And the call in the end zone…the PI…

      So many bad calls. The Big 12 sucks.

      • #234810
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        Brettski
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        Agreed. Was sitting in the northwest end zone. Multiple horrendous calls. Every questionable call had gone against the Utes this year

    • #234811
      12 3
      NorthernUte
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      Praying that one day we can stop blaming the refs for having a bottom 25 offense. It’s getting embarrassing. The refs didn’t put us there.

      • #234814
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        EagleMountainUte
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        Yeah bad look blaming the refs when your offense plays a total of maybe three series all. Big12 sucks and that includes Utah.

        • #234932
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          //r00t4Utes
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          I didn’t see Miami blaming the refs, I saw him point out some questionable to bad calls going against the team he’s a fan of.

          Both things can be true, the Utes offense being the reason the Utes lost every game, AND the refs making bad calls.

          I’m mean, Miami has plenty of posts criticizing the team and coaches, so it’s not like he’s just posting about the refs or making excuses or posting the same criticism over and over.

    • #234878
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      HATUman
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      What about defensive holding on a FG attempt? That’s a first for me.

    • #234884
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      Matt
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      That was a horse s**t call. Cost Utah a very makeable 45 yard field goal.

      • #234893
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        The Miami Ute
        Participant

        It was a weird call in the sense that Bottari wasn’t under extreme pressure and it looked like the ball just took off on him. I’ve been watching football for a very long time and I can’t recall a flag being thrown for intentional grounding under similar conditions in the past.

        • #234897
          2008 National Champ
          Participant

          let alone twice in one day in different games. QB’s throw it out of bounds all the time. Must be a new emphasis call by Big 12 refs.

          • #234899
            1 1
            EagleMountainUte
            Participant

            I agree with how the Fox crew evaluated it though. It wasn’t even close to a receiver and it avoided a sack.

            When timeouts are valuable you can’t take sacks or commit stupid fouls which result in sacks. It is coaching.

            • #234900
              The Miami Ute
              Participant

              To me, it didn’t look like Bottari had to get rid of the ball or he was going to be sacked, but. again, that’s just me. Was there a a defender in the area, yeah, sure…but it didn’t look like the guy was in his grill about to lay hands on him. I mean, Bottari wasn’t even scrambling for his life on the play…it looked like a straight dropback…

              • #234904
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                EagleMountainUte
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                I guess you could argue back of the endzone throws are just to avoid a sack. It didn’t make sense to throw it away like that.

                If the refs called it as punishment for the stupid ass criticism by Harlan even better. We need to stop blaming the officiating for this s**tty team though. It is the worst team in College football.

              • #234922
                Tony (admin)
                Keymaster

                If I recall there were two blitzers that were en route to him.

            • #234915
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              2008 National Champ
              Participant

              I’d need to see it again but from what I saw on replay, the “intended” receiver was still running downfield with his back to the QB. Bottari threw to the sidelines and the receiver turned it into a post. Just didn’t feel like it had the elements necessary for grounding. Especially when it’s very common for a QB to throw the ball into the ground to avoid sacks.

    • #234907
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      The Miami Ute
      Participant

      I would say that it’s the worst “return on investment” team in the nation. The amount of resources devoted to this team compared with what the end result is, well, let’s just say that if it was a business it would be entering Chapter 11 bankruptcy status.

    • #234920
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      GameForAnyFuss
      Participant

      Big 12 officiating makes PAC12 officiating look like the NFL. That said, the officiating isn’t why we lost.

      • #234923
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        Tony (admin)
        Keymaster

        Could be said about most if not all of our games.

      • #234943
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        2008 National Champ
        Participant

        Are we sure that wasn’t a former PAC crew? It was for the parochial school game

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