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    • #233289
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      Tony (admin)
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      The practice field and the regular field are the same if I’m not mistaken. The turf at Rice/Eccles used to be really bad and hard as cement. But maybe there’s something going on with all these leg injuries.

    • #233293
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      Anfernee
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      Josh Nurse was saying it’s the same strength and conditioning team from when he was there. He said it’s from players not taking care of themselves properly. The stretching, yoga, nutrition, what you do after practice with your body etc. I have no idea what’s happening but it can’t be ignored.

      • #233377
        Xanthis
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        Nurse also said he had special orthopedic inserts and didn’t really care for UA’s cleats.

    • #233295
      hbUte
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      This has to be more than just bad luck.

      Below is a history of the RES field surface. Wonder if the practice facility is also “Vertex CORE FieldTurf”.

      The stadium floor has also changed with the times. A Vertex CORE FieldTurf surface was installed in July of 2021, marking the fourth version of FieldTurf laid down in Rice-Eccles since 2002. Previous surfaces (dating back to Ute Field) were natural grass from 1927-71 and again in 2000-01, AstroTurf from 1972-95 and SportGrass from 1995-99.

      • #233302
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        Utesbyfive
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        I think we need to invest whatever it takes into natural turf. It’s too important for this crap to happen over and over. Under Armor needs to be seriously looked at.

    • #233308
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      highlandute7
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      Maybe it is a combination of the turf and the crap that is Under Armor. You would think there would be someone at the U that would connect the dots but at the same time, not sure how you prove that it is the equipment. If most of the injuries are lower leg, it would seem logical that there would be a connection to the shoes/cleats they are wearing on top of the turf. We should have dumped UA long ago. Everyone I have talked to say their shoes/cleats are crap.

      • #233321
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        MontanaUte
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        I think blaming Under Armour and/or turf is the easy way out. 94 of the 133 FBS schools play on field turf and many universities also have Under Armour contracts. Hell, some of the universities that have both Under Armour and field turf (the University of Maryland, University of Wisconsin, and University of Northwestern) don’t have the same issues as Utah. I am under the firm belief that it all lies with strength and conditioning.

        • #233374
          DataUte
          Participant

          It’s the altitude man 😉

    • #233319
      2008 National Champ
      Participant

      Tony: the turf wasn’t “like” cement. It was cement with barbed wire spray painted on top of it. It didn’t even need to be hot out for you to get heat blisters on your feet. The astroturf was so short and stiff getting tackled on it was roughly equivalent of landing on a wire brush or bed of nails.

      • #233359
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        Tony (admin)
        Keymaster

        I actually played football on that cement turf.

        • #233372
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          2008 National Champ
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          As did I. Loved every minute of it. But looking back, it was dangerous as hell and wouldn’t want to do so again.

    • #233322
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      Ute Dub
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      It’s the interlocking U. Bring back the drum and feather. End the curse of the interlocking U.

    • #233324
      BD
      Participant

      There’s this. Josh Nurse confirming UA is not good.

      https://x.com/UnoQuatroJ14/status/1856404411574063226?t=GAT8LlgvySFlYUQtmJAkpw&s=19

    • #233331
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      AZUTE
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      Utah needs to go back to natural grass but sadly it will never happen.

      The maintenance cost are to high. Because RES is a multi use facility meaning high school games concerts motor cross and monster truck rallies and whatever else goes on up there it would destroy natural grass and Utah would be replacing it every season.

      • #233380
        Xanthis
        Participant

        They have the money. Throw it at someone that works with Dan Farnse at RSL. The dude is a wizard with grass.

    • #233343
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      Kellso
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      Breaking it down, injuries in upper and lower extremities and torso occurred more frequently on artificial turf than on natural grass. When analyzing by sport, researchers found that football, men’s lacrosse, rugby, and girls and boys soccer had higher rates of injury than other sports. Although no statistically significant difference was found in level of play, there was a higher level of competition injury compared with injuries sustained in practice.

      Dr. Voos says the team plans to publish the study this year. They presented their findings at the American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine (AOSSM) 2019 Annual Meeting in Boston, Massachusetts, in June 2019. With the study complete, the next step is to research the impact of factors such as turf quality, shoe wear and injury prevention programs on injury rates, especially during competition.

      One study.

    • #233440
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      RustyShackleford
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      I think it’s a combination of many things creating a giant sh*t show

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