It was an obvious hold

[JT]

https://x.com/4Wade2021/status/1855560926491250931?t=twU_4aUxr3Z7eqNIx7CKDw&s=01

Watch especially the 2nd and 3rd loops through there.

[GibUtes]

If the QB is already sacked before he could even throw to a held player, why call it?

[JT]

QB already sacked? You’re talking about that other camera angle, later in the play, when there was more contact further down the field. This was at the start of the play and you can see there is no one in the backfield yet.

[HeyyyUguyyys]

Are you trying to convince us or yourself that you deserved to win the game?

[JT]

It was an obvious and significant grab/hold right as the receiver released. This isn’t your typical and debatable hand fighting that happens on every play.

[HeyyyUguyyys]

Dude let it go, you won. What are you trying to accomplish by coming on here and posting this? It reeks of insecurity. It was a letter of the law hold, yes. If it hadn’t been called would you be coming on here to complain about it? Nope. You wouldn’t have even seen it because all of your focus was on the fact that your QB didn’t even have a chance to get the ball off and that was because your O-line was overwhelmed on the play and no other reason. Sometimes the letter of the law goes in your favor and you rightfully take it because it helps your cause. Every team has been there. It’s always a little embarrassing to win that way though because everybody knows you were as fortunate as you were good. You are sitting at 7 in the AP poll and not a person in America thinks you are the seventh best team so you are self conscious. I get it.

[ladyinred]

Are you seriously coming on here acting like you wouldn’t be livid if the tables were turned? I still remember the controversial targeting call in the 2016 holy war and byu fans were beside themselves. I would argue this game was far more egregious – it literally un-did what was a certain win. Go on and thump your chest with your fellow goober friends and celebrate barely getting past a bad Utah team.

[Yergensen]

B12 officials consistently allow WR and DB to play from crew to crew and game to game, not calling even more egregious activity, and they call that?!

I would be interested in when the flag was thrown. Was it thrown when the alleged hold occurred, when Retzlaff was in the grasp or after the play?

That will help prove or disprove my personal conspiracy theories.

[The Miami Ute]

It was a BS call and a case of an official playing God. He giveth and he taketh away.

[UTUTE]

Someone posted a video on X filmed from the stands and it looked like to me the ref threw it late, well after the hold and during /after the sack.

[hbUte]

Not the best view of the play but the ref reached for his flag at about the same time the crowd noise signaled the sack.

Vaughn hold call

[NarfUte]

If it’s a hold by rule, you can’t let the exact same thing go on all game (watch how byu played singer) and then call it in that moment.

[2008 National Champ]

that was my point on a different thread. If you’ve been calling that a hold all game – which the crew wasn’t – then it’s a hold. But until I see the all-22 from every other play to verify that receivers were untouched by a defender since that call was not made at any other time.,,

Bigger issue to me is why so many parochial school fans can’t just take the win? Worry about the next game, not the one where they scored more points than the opponent.

[Utah]

It’s a stupid f**king call. If that is holding then the refs missed 2-3 calls on #2 covering Singer.

If King’s holding call was holding then the refs missed BYU holding Reid every time he blitzed.

BYU’s QB had zero shot in that play. The play was dead before it started. Whether or not it was holding Utah f**king destroyed BYU.

And the refs f**ked up with an absolutely awful f**king call.

[JT]

Pushing and hand fighting within 5 yards happens all game long. Obvious grabs right as the WR releases do not and should always be called.

[UteUte123]

Hahahha BYU fans are morons! It literally took the refs for your all mighty team to beat a bad 4-4 Utah team! You got saved! Move on!

[Crow]

It was not a hold because even if the QB has not been sacked the Utah players had him wrapped up and he could not have planted and gone through a throwing motion. Horrible call to keep byu in the CFP

[Spencer26]

I’m wondering which hold? Cause I saw an obvious hold on Fillinger… it should have at the very least offset

[SteelUte]

Get off our Utah Fan website Zoobs! We don’t want you here. If you want to talk with people who agree with you go to zooberboard.
And all the talk about Harlan and Whitt complaining to the refs- shut your mouth. Sitake and Retzlaff complained to the refs all the way to the locker room after the first half. Makes me wonder if that is where the seed was planted for those refs. Remember when Jordan got called for that push off B Russ? Of course not- refs shouldn’t influence the game on a game deciding play for something that happened the whole freaking game.

[Holladay Ute]

What Joel Klatt said about it is how I feel about it. I think that call could go either way and is ultimately a subjective flag in a gray area. Obviously, as a Utah fan, I’m biased to think that this is a super ticky-tacky call. I feel like plays like this happen all the time in football. A BYU fan will say it’s a “textbook” hold. Clearly, it’s not obvious in either direction…

And so the biggest problem (and ultimately why Utah is so upset) is that it wasn’t consistent w/ how the game was called all night long (or all season). Plenty of plays where BYU defenders created contact earlier in the game. Plenty of plays where Utah defenders created contact earlier in the game (which Sitake even admitted). How can you let them play that way all night, but not allow it on the last drive (play) of the game?

All that said, credit to BYU for putting together a clutch drive to get the last second FG. Utah still had the opportunity to stop them (although that call was a huge momentum shift in favor of BYU). And if Utah’s offense could’ve mustered one first down when the defense gave them great field position multiple times late in the game, they could’ve put it away.

[JT]

You don’t understand what happened. You’re basing your opinion on the original bad camera angle everyone originally saw and haven’t put them together.

The video I posted was only the very beginning of the play. There is clear holding on the release. The camera angle you are referencing continues and shows more debatable contact further down the field at the end of which Retzlaff gets sacked.

[2008 National Champ]

You need to let it go and enjoy your win. There must be better things for you to do than educate Utah fan on why your opinion is the only one to be considered.

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