Love the Big 12

[Tyler Henry]

I love Utah being in the Big 12. The atmospheres have been amazing, and every team is competitive. I grew up in Kansas, I dreamed Utah would one day make the transition! I am loving the experience right now!

[Tednab]

Really , feels like the mountain west 2.0

[Ute Dub]

Some of us still think it’s Christmas that Utah ever made it into the PAC 12 and would have equally been thrilled to leave the MW for BIG 12. I don’t remember playing at Laramie or Albuquerque this year. More change is yet to come. Stay grateful and those good vibes will pay dividends down the road.

[MotherJabubu]

“Equally thrilled to be in the Big12” has a big caveat when OU and UT were the Big12

[Ute Dub]

You’re right, we should have rejected the BIG 12 invite and went independent or went back to the MwC.

[Jim Vanderhoof]

Why down vote someone who likes being in the Big 12? Tyler nothing wrong with liking the conference you grew up watching. Nothing wrong with others missing the Pac 12. Me personally I like playing some new teams and also miss the marquee matchups in Pac 12. We can’t change anything so let’s make the best of the situation and be happy we can have a legitimate shot at the playoffs every year.

[Central Coast Ute]

I’m not having that experience. This is a step down in competition. I guarantee had Utah gone into Autzen with Wilson as the QB not only would Utah have lost, the crowd would have been way louder. I don’t know what kind of Crack B12 fans have been smoking but everything they have claimed about this conference has been false so far.

[Roy Rangum]

I’ve believed for a long time, that at least in the short term, you are better off as a big fish in a small pond rather than a little fish in a big pond. Hopefully we can make the most of this opportunity to dominate in the Big12 and make some waves. However, the long term goal is and has to be to make it into either the B10 or SEC. But as we’re not there yet, I think the B12 is the next best spot.

[The Miami Ute]

Did you use AI to create this comment? Sounds like something straight out of the “How Can I P**s Off Utah Fans?” book.

[UteBacker]

I don’t tell people how to fan. Good on ya, Tyler, if you’re enjoying this conference. Personally, I think we’ve been relegated, but that doesn’t mean I’m not invested in my Utes.

[UTE98]

Not my conference. BYU is 2-0, second year in the conference. Underwhelmed. So far it is about the same as UNM, UNLV, WYO, CSU.

2011, Utah’s first four conference games were losses to USC, UW, and ASU. BigXII doesn’t move the needle.

BYU, UCF, and Utah are leading the league with ISU… three of those four are relative newcomers. Too bad Lincoln transferred to USC, he was a god in the BigXII, now we know why!

[UTE98]

Utah started 2012 0-4 in conference as well. What does this say about OU and Texas? underwhelming seasons with far superior rosters.

[ORute]

We’re a football powerhouse in a basketball conference, it is what it is.

[Matt]

“Powerhouse” lol. What a joke. You guys are universally despised by the fans of all big 12 schools. You guys are going to lose some games. Wilson is not a good qb.

[The Miami Ute]

Are you done Matt? LOL…like anyone here gives a s**t if Utah is liked, or not, by other Big XII schools. Utah being in the Big XII is the equivalent of me having a cup of coffee at a truck stop on the way to the big time. Have fun in a few years when you’re in the PAC 6/7/8 or whatever it’s called at the time.

[Jim McMahon]

If you are a fellow BYU fan, you’re an idiot. Don’t come to a rival message board and talk trash when they’re venting on their own board. We hate that on CB, so don’t do the same.

Just delete your account.

[Jim Vanderhoof]

Universally despised by all Big 12 schools? Thats like calling the kettle black. Sounds like a cougarboard comment. I’m sure you’ve scanned the internet to find some sophisticated fans on twitter to back that comment. I know everyone likes BYU so much. Go back to the free ice cream stand for visitors at LES and hand out Utah thinks their better than us signs.

[Central Coast Ute]

🤣🤣🤣 and you guys are universally despised by everyone outside of the Big 12. I’ll take Freshman Wilson over sophomore Retzlaff any day. And until byi gets rid of ARod, you’ll never sniff the playoff.

[Jim Vanderhoof]

Common man. Powerhouse? Georgia Ohio Sate Alabama are powerhouses. We are a good solid program but let’s see how we do in the Big 12 with a really good team. If we make the final 4 in the playoffs that might qualify us as a powerhouse this year. I’ve been a Ute fan way to long to consider us a powerhouse.

[ORute]

Nope, going to disagree with you here. The Utah football program has developed into one of the best in the nation, not my opinion, fact. Ask Joel Klatt and other national media. Ask the number of guys we put in the NFL. Ask how well the program has done with ‘less’. Joined a step up in conference and won 2 conference championships. Elite coach, known as the top developer of talent. Would your definition of USC be a powerhouse because they get 5*s and do nothing with them? Georgia, OSU and Alabama are bluebloods–they have a history of being top tier. Utah hasn’t historically been a blueblood, doesn’t mean they’re not currently a powerhouse based on the last 10-20 years. Im proud of this program and don’t hesitate to call them one of the best college football programs, any number of metrics backs that up.

[The Miami Ute]

Come on man…take off the Utah goggles. This is a program that’s never even had one 5-star recruit. How in the heck can you call it a powerhouse? This is a program that routinely loses three to five games every season. Does that sound like a powerhouse to you? This is a program that STILL can’t keep the best in-state recruits in Utah. That’s not the sign of a powerhouse. Maybe one day Utah will be a powerhouse, but that’s surely not now or anytime in the foreseeable future. Sorry for the bucket of cold water but having gone to Miami from 88-92, I’ve had a front seat to what a powerhouse program looks like and, right now, Utah isn’t it.

[ORute]

utah goggles, ok ok, guess I thought I was on a ute fan site or something, I will tone down my respect for our program and wait until we can buy 5 stars like the old Miami teams did

[The Miami Ute]

Is that your take? If so, it’s dumber than a box of rocks. Miami buying players? It just so happens that the “State of Miami” (the area from Palm Beach down to Dade counties) produces large numbers of the best football players in the nation. You ever hear of a guy called Derrick Thomas (AKA as the Sack Monster). I went to high school with him.
See, Miami, then and now, doesn’t even have to leave its area code to recruit bluechip players. There are so many down there, that Miami can’t take them all. And that’s the reason why Miami dominated college football for close to three decades. They have a built-in advantage that Utah, unfortunately, will never have. Hell, South Florida has a population that’s twice the size of the entire state of Utah. Hard to compete against that. Utah’s secret weapon is Whitt and hopefully that continues with Scalley.

[ORute]

Ah yes Nevin Sharpiro never existed. Shapiro was a major booster of the University of Miami’s athletic programs, and reportedly spent $2 million from 2002 to 2010 in support of the football and men’s basketball teams. Tony Russel: From 1989 to 1992, Russell had helped players receive more than $220,000 of fraudulent grants. In 1995, the NCAA announced that the University of Miami had provided or allowed “more than $412,000 of excessive aid” to student-athletes between 1990 and 1994, failed to implement its drug testing program, and lost institutional control over the football program.
In the 1980s, it was 2 Live Crew’s Luther Campbell who was giving Miami Hurricanes players money under the table.

Your kidding right? Miami had the dirtiest programs in the history of college sports. I’ll take developing players and winning the old fashion way over providing players with cash, prositutes, drugs and guns. But hey, just me, lets agree to disagree.

[The Miami Ute]

Miami has the dirtiest program in college football history? Another clueless take. I guess you weren’t around when SMU got the death penalty from the NCAA. Am I right? And funnily enough, Miami never even came close to that or had to vacate anything due alleged infractions. I knew Shapiro was next in your playbook. And I’m ready for it. It’s just so happens that Shapiro has absolutely nothing to do with the university. He never went there and isn’t even from Miami. He was just a lowlife sleazeball that has delusions of grandeur by being associated with the team. And guess what, during the time he was associated with the Hurricanes, the team went from world class to an also ran.

Tony Russell? That also has nothing to do with the school. Russell, who acted alone, helped players on scholarship defraud the government by filing fraudulent Pell Grant applications. He did this because he had a then $200 a day cocaine habit. The guy was a straight up crook and did time in the Big House for his actions.

So, you see, it’s easy to point fingers at the school but hard to justify when you know the details. Now, let’s stick to Utah football from here on in.

[The Miami Ute]

You want to talk dirty programs? Look at this list and come back to me when you see Miami.

The NCAA stripped former Penn State football head coach Joe Paterno of 111 wins because of the Jerry Sandusky scandal before returning the wins in 2015 as part of a settlement agreement.[33][34]
The 2005 USC vs. Notre Dame football game, famous for the “Bush Push”, was later vacated because of monetary benefits Reggie Bush received from sports agents while in college.[35]
The 2009 ACC Championship Game victory by Georgia Tech was vacated due to Georgia Tech’s athletics department hindering an NCAA investigation into Demaryius Thomas receiving $312 worth of clothing from a former player, by informing Thomas and another player ahead of time that they were going to be interviewed, which the NCAA viewed as evidence of intentionally playing an ineligible player.[36][37] While some reports indicate that Georgia Tech was also made to vacate two losses (to Georgia and Iowa),[36] Georgia Tech does not recognize the losses as vacated in their media guide, as of 2023.[38]
Bowl game victories that have been vacated by the NCAA include:
2005 Orange Bowl, USC[39]
This was also the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) title game for the 2004 season; the 2004 USC Trojans football team was forced to vacate its national championship,[40] although the Associated Press (AP) still recognizes USC as winners of the 2004 national championship.[41]
2006 Emerald Bowl, Florida State[42]
2011 Sugar Bowl, Ohio State[43]
2011 New Orleans Bowl, Louisiana–Lafayette[44]
2013 New Orleans Bowl, Louisiana–Lafayette[44]
2013 Pinstripe Bowl, Notre Dame[45]
2014 Outback Bowl, LSU[46]
2015 Texas Bowl, LSU[46]
2020 Gator Bowl, Tennessee[47]
Rarely, losses have been vacated in NCAA records, which does not affect the winning team. The intention of this penalty has been to vacate a losing team’s appearance in a game, which in the following two cases, were the BCS National Championship Games of the 2005 and 2012 seasons, respectively.
2006 Rose Bowl, USC[48][49]
2013 BCS National Championship Game, Notre Dame[50]
In addition, the 1998 SMU Mustangs football team had to vacate the results of their first 10 games (4 wins and 6 losses), due to use of an ineligible player, resulting in their initial 5–7 record being recorded as an official 1–1 record.[51] This is the only known time in major college football history (FBS or its historical predecessors) that a team has had to vacate more losses in a season than wins.

[Central Coast Ute]

I wouldn’t call Utah a powerhouse either. A very good, solid program yes. Powerhouse? No. You can say one of if not the best in the B12 but that’s as far as it goes.

[SalUteopia]

I’m with @Vander on this one. We’re a strong program, but we’re not a powerhouse. We’re not on the level of Georgia, OSU, Bama, etc. But there is no shame in that. We have a top 5-7 coach, and we routinely punch above our weight. We’re well respected by the national pundits, and our trajectory continues to trend upwards.

[OmahaOmaha]

Love your enthusiasm. Would like to see it spread.

[Hellhound152]

#1 Welcome BYU Matt to the board. You are welcome to celebrate your teams victory with us!
#2 The Big12 is white dog s**t. The hateful 8 should be embarrassed of themselves, the mid-major 4 may be better than the teams in the league that were in power conferences since the 50’s. We’ll see if they can actually wear the mid-majors down by the end of the season. There is nothing impressive about this league as a football conference.

[prestitute]

I think it is fine for all of us to have our opinions. I think we do have a slightly easier road this year compared to most years in the PAC as there aren’t as many true top teams in a given year. I thought KSt or OK St might be that, but they aren’t this year.
Overall though, I think our schedule is pretty similar to most years in the P12 (last year being a big exception). I liked the P12 destinations as they generally places I liked to visit, but I don’t think there is a huge difference on the field.

I do like that the BXII fans seem more engaged than most of our P12 brethren, but I don’t see a big difference in our schedule aside from missing the USC, UW, UO type games depending on the rotation. Honestly, 3 of our 9 games are literally the same with ASU, UofA, and CU. USC looks very much like a mid to top BXII team this year, honestly. That LSU win seemed to be doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[Central Coast Ute]

No way. Even in the PAC down years it was better than the B12 is now. Maybe this is better than 2021 PAC 12, but that’s a maybe.

[prestitute]

At the top of the league, usually, but our schedule doesn’t look that different than many of our PAC schedules. Last year is the exception, imo, where we had a ton of top teams, but thinking of say 2018/2019/2021, we had maybe 1-2 games against truly top teams per year. That’s just my view.

[Tyler Henry]

We can agree to disagree! The Pac 12 did not scare me in terms of the teams we played. The only time I truly “feared” a team was last year when Oregon traveled to SLC. We battled the national runner-up with a squad of backups. The main thing I love about the Big 12 is that the fans are great, and there really isn’t a “bad” team, other than Houston. Houston has been recruiting well since joining the conference though, so who knows!

[Distantute]

Big 12 blows. Not a single good team and im including utah right now. The way weve played so dar every team in the top 10 would blow us out. Need the o to play ALOT better.

[lgt4141]

Bloom where you are planted. Love or hate the Big 12 this our realty right now. I doubt the players are arguing about the conference. They just want to play and win. If Utah keeps winning good things will happen.

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