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    • #121507
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      Ghost of the HEB
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      Says they need to grab USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Arizona State. Again, this is doomsday scenario for Utah unless the big 10 came calling and wanted to scoop up Utah and Colorado. Without those 6 teams the Pac-12 would either cease to be, or it would scoop up western teams like BYU, Boise, SDSU and others to try and stay afloat.
      No thank you.

    • #121511
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      Utesbyfive
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      What will be, will be.

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      cjd1
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      I see UT & OU leaving and joining the PAC 12.

      • #121522
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        UtesRock
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        I lived in Oklahoma for 9 years, and that will never ever happen.  OU fans will not have it.  OU travels well, but not one fan wants to trave to CA, AZ, sure they will travel this fare for one or two games, but six, no way.  I’ve seen this quote before and sure as Apple stock will rise again my response is the same Never ever going to happen.

         

        • #121549
          PlainsUte
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          I don’t think the visiting fans traveling is even part of the discussion.  Yeah, you absolutely have to have that for bowl games, but not for conference games.  If you did they wouldn’t stick the visiting fans in some far flung corner of the stadium.   

          The amount of travel for the players (time, distance and cost) is a concern, not only for football and basketball but for the non-revenue sports as well.  Existing Big-12 teams were willing to commit to traveling to Morgantown from the Midwest/Plains for one game per year (not every year for football).  It WV-U that was making the biggest travel commitment for all their road games.

          Today’s operative questions: Would Ariz fans show up big for a football or basketball home game vs Oklahoma or Texas and vice versa??  I’d say definitely YES.   Would that draw a big TV rating?  Yes.   Harder to argue for TCU vs Utah, honestly.

    • #121513
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      GameForAnyFuss
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      Honestly I don’t care what sportscasters think should happen or want to see happen. Conference membership is about business and money as much as it is about athletics. And while sportscasters may understand athletics, most of them don’t understand business and money – if they did, they wouldn’t be sportscasters.

      • #121514
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        utefansince79
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        Can’t see the 4 California school splitting up.  They were insistent they all play football every year when the PAC12 was formed.

         

         

    • #121517
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      EagleMountainUte
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      Coronavirus will take care of all these worries soon enough. 

      • #121523
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        UtesRock
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        Stay calm and wash your hands.

        • #121525
          EagleMountainUte
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          I got recommend videos in my feed for washing hands. People are cashing in on on this hype. 

    • #121519
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      AZUTE
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      Arizona brings nothing to the table. Athletic program is a dumpster fire right now and Tucson is a hell on earth.

      Football is a horrible and B-ball is not the national brand it used to be.

      Utah gets swept up by mega conference before u of pay does

      • #121535
        PhiladelphiaUte
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        But most likely, Colorado gets picked up before Utah.  It doesn’t matter that our athletic department had been more successful than theirs.  What matters is that we bring the Salt Lake City market, whereas they bring the Denver market.

        Edge:  Denver market

    • #121520
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      UteThunder
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      Off-season fodder.

      But, I will say this: Utah and Colorado are in a good position to be included in a BigXII Pac12 merger. We are geographically closer to the BigXII than most of the other Pac12 teams which means we could sort of act as the bridge between the Cali schools and the rest of the BigXII. On top of that, we bring unique markets – something only half of the rest of the conference can do. Why take Arizona and Arizona State when you can just take the Sun Devils and get the whole Arizona market? Same goes for Washington, Oregon, and even the Cali schools. You don’t need both of the LA and both of the Bay Area schools.

      • #121521
        noneyadb
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        BigXII has WVU, I’m not sure that they care about geographic location.

        • #121527
          PlainsUte
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          More likely to see Memphis or Cinci added to the Big12 because of that.

      • #121530
        GameForAnyFuss
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        Honestly I think the best thing Utah has going for us in any conference realignment scenario is our new AAU status. That carries significant weight within conference circles.

        Ruth is the best University president in our lifetimes.

        • #121552
          noneyadb
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          Just ignore the handeling of the Lauren situation and yeah she’s done okay.

      • #121550
        BulgieUte
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        You may be right about a market redundancy regarding taking both Arizona/Washington/Oregon schools but LA for sure and possibly the bay area are big enough that there is something to gain by taking both teams. Especially if streaming services start playing more of a role and # of subscribers is based more on specific content rather than cable subscriptions by people who subscribe for other content and just happen to have PAC12 programming.

        It could come down to which teams have the larger fan base rather than what particular market they play their home games in.

    • #121531
      Crow
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      Won’t happen it’s the president’s decision they care about academics not athletics. There are 9 AAU members in the PAC12 3 in Big12 the Universities can collaborate over projects. So why go to the Big12. This is a wet dream over on Cougar board.

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