Never in my life did I think I'd ever see a piece like this from Gordon Monson.

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- 09/05/2017 at 8:43 AM #39626
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  leftyjace
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  And there’s a lot of truth in it too.
  
  He even tactfully avoids the issues with Bronco Mendenhall, and avoids praising Whit a little too much.
  
  http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/09/05/monson-is-there-a-talent-gap-between-utah-and-byu-yes-yes-there-is/
  
  Goodness. Goodness gracious. That’s a flippin’ awesome op-ed. Even if every BYU fan out there thinks it’s shiz.
- 09/05/2017 at 8:59 AM #39628
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  Tony (admin)
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  I can’t stand Monson but I guess it is so obvious that he has to admit it. Plus he knows he’ll get a lot of traffic by ruffling the zoobie’s feathers.
  - 09/05/2017 at 10:43 AM #39639
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    gUrthBrooks
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    He loves BYU…he’s building an excuse for the program losing its 7th in a row so the devastation can be minimized among his BYU loving fan base. He is right….he’s setting up the David and Goliath scenario should BYU win.
- 09/05/2017 at 9:15 AM #39632
  
  RiseasUtes
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  I dont think anyone in the state likes Monson. He is always so negative towards both Utah and byu. Im not sure I understand his schtick and why it is he still has a job doing what he does. He talks a lot without really saying anything at all.
- 09/05/2017 at 9:23 AM #39634
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  PlainsUte
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  So he’s crediting ACT scores and the Honor Code for the talent gap?
  - 09/05/2017 at 10:45 AM #39640
    
    mpute
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    You’re right, Plains, among the other facts he mentioned:
    
    – quality of coaches/recruiting/development of players
    
    – conference affiliation
    
    – are there even enough Mormon players wanting to go to BYU? –> “Are there enough clean-living, faith-espousing, Book of Mormon-believing, scripture-reading, religion-class-attending, hallelujah-shouting, Eagle-Scout-achieving, weed-and-booze-avoiding, short-hair-wearing, smooth-face-appearing great athletes on the planet to level out the playing field for BYU?”
    - 09/05/2017 at 11:14 AM #39646
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      PorterRockwell
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      I carding point. Umber three you make. The resounding asnwer is no
      - 09/05/2017 at 11:45 AM #39652
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        ironman1315
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        Some one is on the sauce early. 😜
      - 09/05/2017 at 1:31 PM #39679
        
        Chidojuan
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        Ooo! He card reads good!
    - 09/05/2017 at 11:18 AM #39649
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      EagleMountainUte
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      Thanks for the summary I was curious enough to almost click on the link. I don’t want Monson to even have my traffic dude is a dinosaur and should be out of work.
    - 09/05/2017 at 12:55 PM #39665
      
      Puget Ute
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      Yes, of course they could field that team. But it is going to be competitive at the MWC or AAC level.
- 09/05/2017 at 11:27 AM #39650
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  UM4G
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  My favorite was this guy
  
  Point being, I believe Utah is every bit as talented as LSU minus 13 scholarship players, and I believe Saturdays game result will prove it
  
  Are you nutz? Utah is more talented than BYU and closer to LSU than BYU but that does not mean that Utah’s talent level is closer to LSU than it is to BYU. Utah would have been manhandled by LSU as well. Not to the same degree as BYU but there is no way in heck they can stack up to teams like LSU on a consistent basis. They do not face that level of competition through out their season.
  
  Alabama is about the only team in the SEC I don’t think our Utes could keep up with right now. I’ll agree that our depth across the board is not equal to LSU, Alabama, or Auburn, but we’re definitely getting there, we wouldn’t have been manhandled by them, it would have been a close game IMO. As for not stacking up to teams like LSU on a consistent basis? We do it every year in the PAC when we play USC, UW, Oregon, Stanford, etc.
  - 09/05/2017 at 12:25 PM #39655
    
    shakeitsugaree
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    Hi @UM4G – welcome!
    - 09/06/2017 at 8:48 AM #39777
      
      UM4G
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      Thanks!
  - 09/05/2017 at 1:56 PM #39694
    
    TheNuschler
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    @um4g and that the Utes have beaten every one of those four. Stanford hasn’t beaten Utah since joining the Pac 12.
  - 09/05/2017 at 5:56 PM #39743
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    Ute1998
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    Let’s remove BYU-P from the schedule and put LSU on it so we can find out!
- 09/05/2017 at 3:29 PM #39715
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  89ute
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  Talent gap, yes, it huge. What we need to keep in perspective as a P5 and Pac-12 program is that this same talent gap exists between us, USC, Oregon and UW.
  
  Where we’re at now, we have to somehow wiggle around USC to win the south, then we get served up to the north champ like every south champ before us.
  
  Unlike every south champ before us, we need to continue to build with blue chip recruits. No team has done anything without at least 40 active blue chips recruits on the roster.
  
  I just can’t get excited about putting away BYU. We should, we have and we will.
  
  As fans it’s time to focus on what matters. THE PAC-12.
  
  The media will follow and it looks like they are ready to come along.
  - 09/05/2017 at 4:19 PM #39725
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    COFfrom83
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    I think we’ll have a hard time not paying attention to this game as long as chris hill keeps it on the schedule. time to move on. play out the current contract then be done. Want an in-state rivalry game? Battle of the Brothers is a much more fun, and clean, and more historic rivalry. tell the legislature what they can do with their phony audits when we drop the zoobs.
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