New Poll: If Utes win 4th in Pac-12 do they deserve an NCAA Tournament bid?

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- 02/27/2017 at 1:15 PM #29020
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  Tony (admin)
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  Vote in the poll. Discuss this topic here.
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- 02/27/2017 at 1:44 PM #29024
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  Milton Vanderslice
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  I think this is where our pre-conference schedule bites us hard.
- 02/27/2017 at 2:30 PM #29031
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  rbmw263
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  We haven’t done anything to deserve it
- 02/27/2017 at 3:33 PM #29034
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  FountainofUte
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  If we even had one signature win to hang our hat on, I’d maybe say yes. Two signature wins would do it. But with zero, I’m afraid we’re a day late and a dollar short.
  
  At this point the question is, short of winning the PAC tourney, can any combo of wins get us in? What if we run the table to the conf tourney final but lose that game? Is that enough?
  - 02/27/2017 at 3:45 PM #29035
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    TheJuggernaut
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    Oregon St killed us far more than not having any signature wins. We spent some time in bracketology’s Last Four Out leading up to Oregon St. We were on the bubble, had we beaten Oregon St, won at Colorado, then beaten the NoCal schools at home we would have been squarely on the bubble, and we likely seal an at large bid if we get to the PAC 12 tournament semis. Losing to Oregon St killed all of that. Oregon St is our only loss to a sub 100 RPI team. We had no bad losses before that game.
    
    Utah has to win the PAC12 tournament to get in, there’s no way we get an at large.
    - 02/27/2017 at 4:11 PM #29038
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      Tony (admin)
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      Utah has to win the PAC12 tournament to get in, there’s no way we get an at large.
      
      Which would likely mean beating two of these three: Oregon, UCLA, Arizona.
      
      Not likely.
      - 02/28/2017 at 9:08 AM #29117
        
        TheJuggernaut
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        Yes I would expect Oregon, Arizona, and UCLA to all make the semis, meaning as the 4th seed we’d have to beat Oregon then the winner of Az/UCLA.
  - 02/27/2017 at 4:39 PM #29040
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    Milton Vanderslice
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    Placing 4th and beating Oregon in the second game might be enough to get us in. But that’s a tall order.
    - 02/28/2017 at 9:07 AM #29116
      
      TheJuggernaut
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      Beating the NoCal teams this week, getting the fourth seed, beating fifth seed Cal then Oregon in the PAC tournament gets us in the conversation, I don’t think it’s enough for an at large though.
- 02/27/2017 at 9:13 PM #29096
  
  OHIOUTE
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  Now the irony…..If utah had played and beat BYU, who just beat Gonzaga……would that have helped at all?
  - 02/27/2017 at 11:23 PM #29107
    
    Milton Vanderslice
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    not enough
  - 02/28/2017 at 9:11 AM #29119
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    Mano
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    Now the irony…..If utah had played and beat BYU, who just beat Gonzaga……would that have helped at all?
    
    No, no it wouldn’t.
- 02/28/2017 at 9:10 AM #29118
  
  Mano
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  Unfortunately, Utah has no really good wins and a few really bad losses. NIT here we come.
  - 02/28/2017 at 9:12 AM #29121
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    TheJuggernaut
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    Oregon St is our only bad loss, but yes, barring some unlikely wins in Vegas NIT here we come.
    - 02/28/2017 at 10:30 AM #29128
      
      Milton Vanderslice
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      You forget San Francisco.
      - 02/28/2017 at 2:57 PM #29153
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        TheJuggernaut
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        USF’s RPI is currently 91, most don’t consider a loss to a top 100 RPI team on a neutral court a bad loss.
        
        03/01/2017 at 1:13 AM #29212
        
        Matthew Thomas Castleton
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        USF’s RPI is currently 91, most don’t consider a loss to a top 100 RPI team on a neutral court a bad loss.
        
        Especially when said loss occurred without our best player in Kyle Kuzma. Remember, he got injured in the 1st minute of the game. It’s clearly obvious that Utah is a much better team with Kuzma than they are without him.
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