NIL

[Anfernee]

Yes, of course it’s very important. But there’s also a lot of parity in college football right now. And many teams without big NIL collectives are doing very well. It’s an easy excuse for fans when our coaching has been s**tty and guys are half assing it. I won’t argue that NIL is not conducive to the usual Utah football program strengths of development and commitment, but always going to that as a reason we aren’t/won’t be winning when plenty of teams without massive NIL programs are having successful seasons is just weak to me.

[The Miami Ute]

Well, you’re not wrong. Money doesn’t buy you success or happiness, just the parking spot next to both those things. Consider the horrendous state of Utah’s offense juxtaposed with the fact that Utah had the second highest paid OC in all of college football for the last couple of seasons. That absolutely does not compute.

[China Rider]

But it’s complicated!

[HATUman]

Tell that to Michigan, which just managed to steal the #1 recruit from LSU with an $11 million NIL deal. How can anyone look at a situation like that and call it parity? The reality is that only a handful of fan bases and athletic departments have the kind of financial muscle to pull off deals like this. While NIL might create some balance among the top-tier programs, it’s also widening the gap between those elite few and the rest of the field. Instead of true parity, we’re seeing a new hierarchy emerge—a small tier of programs with unlimited resources dominating everyone else.

As for my stance on NIL, I’m not entirely sure how well-funded our program is, but it’s not something I’ll complain about. Why? Because I’m not willing to donate money to pay kids to play a sport. The most they’ll get from me is an occasional ticket purchase or team swag. I already gave three years of my life and a significant amount of time and effort to the university and its athletes. I saw firsthand how well they were treated, and frankly, they were already spoiled compared to the average college student. Now, NIL is only going to magnify that entitlement.

This system is getting out of hand. College football was already dealing with resource inequality, and NIL has made it worse. If there’s no cap on these deals, it’s only going to destroy the competitive balance further. College football is supposed to be about school pride and competition—not turning players into mini-professionals with eight-figure paydays before they’ve even stepped on the field. It’s time to introduce regulations to rein this in before it spirals completely out of control.

[2008 National Champ]

I don’t think there are any regulations that will work. My only hope is that after a few years of diminishing returns, the NIL market will stabilize. Maybe I’m naive on how much money alumni or local businessmen truly have that they are willing to burn on college kids but there’s a big difference between players getting 20k under the table in the “good ole days” and 1.5 MM for QB’s.

Phil Knight was always acting as a de facto owner of Oregon sports, and T Boone Pickett tried the same thing with Oklahoma State. But are there really that many billionaires, or even hundred millionaires, who can toss a few mil a year w/o any return on investment other than school pride?

[Utah]

You’re right. Look, the Big 12 sucks. I know there are some around here who are convinced it’s awesome, but it’s not.

Colorado and ASU are on top right now. BYU is there as well, but their HC sucks and the honor code will hurt them (until they decide it’s ok for football players to have sex and long hair, f**king hypocrites).

Colorado will fall off really quick as soon as Deion leaves.

That leaves ASU.

We have the best foundation to succeed in the Big 12. We just need Whittingham to believe in the forward pass.

We are willing to spend money on the QB, we are willing to spend money on coaches and other players as well.

When it comes to the Big 12, we are a top 2-3 program.

And next year our defense will still be elite, the TE’s will be great, the OL will be great. And we return that RB from Idaho who was supposed to start for us this year.

If we add a QB, a WR or two, A RB and a DE, we will be as good as anyone.

We can easily win the Big 12 next year.

[Utah]

Another thing…as s**tty as this season has been, if Rising doesn’t get hit with a cheap shot vs Baylor, we absolutely roll through the Big 12.

We are undefeated with not a close game in sight with Rising as our QB.

So, as bad as this year has been, Utah’s program isn’t bad. We just need to learn and get better.

[Anfernee]

💯

[China Rider]

Yes indeed. The big 12 is ka ka.

[Ted Lasso]

If you think BYU football players are not having sex you’re naive. I have buddies who played on the team and trust me, most of them are not following the honor code. The trick is not letting the honor code office figure it out

[RoboUte]

Right but that’s not really what’s being called out. We know that players on every program break the rules. But those players are following rules laid out by the coaching staff and administration. If you break them that simply makes you unruly.

The honor code is ostensibly a flow-down from the will of God. Bit of a different sort of mandate. So when you break it and thumb your nose at the heathens up north you’re not just a hypocrite but an apostate, and one who has no problem taking full credit for “living right off the field”. This isn’t just a commentary on the players, it’s understandable that they’d deviate from the path, they have direct temptation to deviate. It’s a commentary on the fanbase who seethes and hollers at the behavior of other fanbases, and looks down their noses at others, when a team they know is mocking their religious standards enjoys success.

If there was any semblance of conviction in the will of God among the ever so overtly pious BYU Fandom then they’d demand standards. After all, it may feel good to ignore the truth. But isn’t there someone important who knows the truth, someone who must be answered to? Someone who can’t be fooled? Plausible deniability in knowledge of the truth is just digging yourself a bigger hole in the eyes of an omniscient intellect. But hey, touchdowns feel good, so we’ll just whistle and look the other way.

[Ted Lasso]

Idk what the f**k you’re trying to say but sure man I agree with you

[2008 National Champ]

I think he’s trying to say that if the people who agree to follow the honor code are allowed to find loopholes, it’s not much of an honor code.

[Ted Lasso]

That’s fair. I agree with Mr Roboute. I hate the honor code too

[RoboUte]

I love the honor code, it’s a reminder of the things we value less than sports.

[NarfUte]

When I was at Utah we partied with the byu tennis team in SLC. I was gonna turn their asses in but they brought beer, so it was cool.

[The Miami Ute]

One of these days ESPN is going to do a 30 for 30 documentary/expose on the BYU Honor Code…the next day, Russell M. Nelson will issue an edict shutting down all sports at BYU… it’ll happen within our lifetime.

[UteFrancais]

Please let it be soon. That will be gold

[Utah]

The best part of all this religious nonsense from that school is after they beat Utah…all the magic happens and living right on and off the field that got them the win over us…

What happened? Did they all go home and f**k their girlfriends after the game? Not pay their tithing? Why did they lose to such a bad team?

lolololololololololololololololololol.

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