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    • #237576
      highlandute7
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      Can someone explain how or if NIL will be different once these players (in all sports) become employees of the University? Doesn’t that mean they will then become paid by the school they attend and with that, can they still take NIL funds coming from booster or can they only receive payment from the school?

      Or does this even matter?

    • #237578
      RUUTES
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      As Employees the University would have to provide employment protection, manage things through HR, pay taxes, workers comp and be far more responsible for actions and insuring payment etc.

      Under NIL someone outside with little or no controls is handing over money.

      If they were employees there would be an entirely different set of rules around outside employment, conflicts of interest, etc.

      As an employee there would probably be limits or controls on what they could accept as gratuity for performing their University Work.

      Frankly employment is both the solution to the current problem AND an end to college sports as we currently know it. It is pulling the final bandage off the wound.

      • #237593
        highlandute7
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        Thanks for the reply but not sure it answers my questions.

        To be brief – can players still accept NIL money once they are considered employees of the University?

        • #237600
          2008 National Champ
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          Yes

        • #237601
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          RedRocks
          Participant

          Most likely.

          Think of someone like LeBron James. He receives a salary as an employee of the Lakers, but he also gets paid by Nike and others for NIL/promotion/etc.

        • #237602
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          Central Coast Ute
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          Yes. Just like pro athletes sign deals with Nike, Wheaties, etc. These kids will essentially become professional athletes.

        • #237603
          highlandute7
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          Makes sense. Thanks for the responses.

        • #237631
          RUUTES
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          a lot depends on the conditions of that specific employment. If the players were unionized or under individual contracts, then many elements can be negotiated. Are they independent contractors or actual employees?

          If they were employees of the “state” then there are conflict rules that may also come into play. A state employee has to disclose everything and can be denied employment if they persist in something seen as a conflict. So, NIL might fall on either side of that depending on how it was set up. State employees also may fall under gift restrictions and I’m not sure how NIL would be considered. I suspect a lot of attorneys would argue for some time over the specifics when we do cross that bridge.

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      Tomasina
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      If an employee of the University, couldn’t contracts be put in place (as with Coaches) the make it harder to switch teams?

    • #237668
      AlohaUte
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      likely the end game is a collectively bargained solution between the players and the NCAA that all NCAA colleges are beholden to. It will likely involve contracts that players have to sign and likely will include provisions for transferring and provisions for cutting players.

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