Oregon State @ Colorado St

[Wilson’s Mustache]

College football is back!

Quick take aways:

OSU looks soft. 

Colorado State has a nicer stadium than we do. Unacceptable. 

[FtheY]

I don’t have cbssn, so I’m watching the byu game. 

Their biggest threat so far seems to be this 6’5″ tight end. I think his name is Bushman? He’s got great hands and looks quick. 

[FtheY]

Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s mangums favorite – he’s big enough to catch any jump ball he throws. 

[UteFanatic]

Yeah, he’s good. But their run game sucks. They are very one dimensional. 

[Duhwayne]

Don’t want to go down that rabbit hole, but I predict we don’t remodel the stadium for a while. TV revenue is going to fall as cable networks crumble. Cal is in trouble because of their remodel. They lost 20 million. That can end an athletics program

[FtheY]

I agree. 

[ironman1315]

Osu is getting shut canned right now.

[Anonymous]

Ouch…0-12 on the road under Andersen.

[quagmire]

Would Utah dominate osu like csu did? I doubt it. Can’t wait to see what he can do against bama in week 4

[Wilson’s Mustache]

I think Utah would match up much better. CSU is going to get s**t on against Bama. I’m much more interested in their game against Colorado next week.

[89ute]

I’ve always thought Gary Andersen was at best a mediocre coach, and that’s a stretch. Barry Alvarez is no fool and pushed that steaming pile of nonsense out of Wisconsin before Gary could nose dive what was built before him.

This is year three and Gary is who he is. OSU is now burdened with his contract so they’re stuck with this steaming pile for a while, and that’s fine with me.

Gary Andersen contract extension to push salary over $3 million in 2021-22

I hope by now all the Gary Andersen hype will die, especially the Gary Andersen to Utah as HC.

[FtheY]

I don’t have an opinion on Gary, but I do have one thought.

Utah is a tough place to build a program, but Corvallis has got to be a challenge. I would imagine it’s very hard to see success there. 

[UteThunder]

A mediocre coach doesn’t take Utah State from averaging 3 wins per year for the three decades before his arrival and lead them to multiple bowl games, including wins over Utah and BYU and an 11 win season and top 25 ranking. He then went 9-4 and 11-3 at Wisconsin. Gary is far better than mediocre.

Everything I’ve heard seems to indicate Gary left Wisconsin because Alvarez was overbearing and placed restrictions on the type of kids Gary was allowed to recruit. 

I’ve never really bought the Andersen as a replacement for Whittingham stuff, but that is more due to age than anything else. Kyle is 57, Gary is 53. By the time Kyle retires, Gary will be in his late 50s or maybe even his early 60s. We aren’t replacing a retired Kyle Whittingham with someone who is on the verge of collecting social security himself.

 

[89ute]

Gary took over a Wisconsin team that was on a roll, back to back to back Rose Bowl appearances. Gary took the program down a notch or two and Alverez got him the hell out of there before he did what he’s doing at OSU.

Utah State did not average 3 wins for “decades.” Yes, it was a long time, but more like about 14 years. John L Smith was the last one to have some success there, including a bowl. Gary took Utah St to two bowls, winning one. His 11 win season was a joke. Did you forget the four best teams left the WAC that year?

Gary is in his third year at OSU and still can’t win a road game. He’s horrible. The only conference game he has a chance of winning this year is Cal, but it’s on the road so it’s pretty dicey.

[Matthew Thomas Castleton]

I disagree. I think they could beat Arizona too. Tucson’s a friggin’ dumpster fire right now on the football field. However, remember when Utah beat the bloody crap out of Colorado State in the 2014 Vegas Bowl? Good times uh?

[UteThunder]

I looked it up, and you’re right, Utah State didn’t average 3 wins per year for 30 years. In the 30 years before Gary took over in Logan(1979-2008), the Aggies averaged 4 wins per year. HUGE difference, right? They had 4 winning seasons during that stretch(7-3 in ’79, 6-5 in ’80, 7-5 in ’93, & 6-5 in ’96). 

Gary took over a program that had known virtually nothing but losing in the 30 years prior to his arrival and built them into a program that went 7-6 and 11-2 in his final two seasons there. He established a good enough program that Wells was able to finish 9-5 & 10-4 the next two seasons in the MWC. As Gary’s recruits and assistants have filtered out of the program, the Aggies have dropped to 6-7 & 3-9 the last two seasons.

If you are going to say that Gary was subpar at Wisconsin because of what they accomplished in the 3 seasons prior to his arrival compared to what he did the following two seasons, then you would have to say that Whittingham is a mediocre coach as well. He took over a program that won back-to-back MWC titles, a Fiesta Bowl, and had an overall record of 22-2. Kyle was 7-5 & 8-5 the following two years. But, I don’t think you could find anyone with any kind of football knowledge who would label Whittingham as mediocre.

To say that Gary is a medicocre coach can only be said out of spite or ignorance. You seem like an intelligent person, so I’m guessing it is spite. 

[89ute]

Not spiteful, not ignorant, I just don’t think he’s a good coach and it’s being proven in front of our eyes right now. That 11 season win in Logan is a joke. Gary held the status quo at 4 wins for 2 years. Won two more games the following year and a bowl. You know how I feel about the 11 win season, the WAC was nothing but junk that year.

Gary was the first mediocre coach to roll through Utah State since John L Smith. A mediocre coach does what Gary did. Beating us was his only BCS/P5 win, which is pathetic when you look at other coaches who had killer seasons/stints at non-bcs/G5 programs.

I don’t buy comparing Gary’s situation walking into Wisconsin to Whitts. We both know too well our program was completely gutted when Urban and Alex left. Wisconsin was loaded.

And now I’m going to bring it back to current. Look at what he’s doing now. It’s a train wreck. Good coaches can do well at OSU, not great, but Mike Reily had a pretty good thing going there and Erickson almost won a Rose Bowl.

He’s 6-19 over all, 3-15 in the Pac-12 and has yet to win a road game. Spin that.

[UteThunder]

I understand your knock on his 11 win season, but Wells took the program Gary built into the much more difficult MWC the next two years and won 9 & 10 games! Wells is proving to be a pretty bad coach so I give most of the credit for those 19 wins to Gary.

I get that the Urban/Whit transition isn’t a perfect example, but do you really think Wisconsin was going to go to 5 straight Rose Bowls under their previous coach? Wisconsin was already on a downward trend before Gary got there. They went 7-1, then 6-2, and then 4-4 in conference play the three years before Gary took over. In fact, Gary changed the trajectory taking them from 8-6 to 9-4 and then 11-3 with a 6-2 conference record both years.

At Oregon State, things haven’t gone well so far but that doesn’t mean he is a bad coach. He inherited a team that was trending downward having 3 losing seasons out of the previous 5 and going from 9 to 7 to 5 wins in the last three seasons under Riley. He did double his first season win total in year two and while they lost to CSU yesterday, we don’t know how the season is going to play out for them yet. I still think they make a bowl game this year and we as Utah fans will be very happy to not have to play them next year.

 

[Puget Ute]

I like Gary Andersen. But I never want to see him as our HC.

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