Prevent defense play calls
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Burn them. Get rid of them. Don’t ever play them ever. I don’t want to see that s**t ever. Go with what works. Bowman had nothing without that s**t.
Go Utes! 4-0 baby!
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Tony (admin)Keymaster
Almost cost us the game.
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TruckStopTerrorsParticipant
Agreed. It’s meant to eat clock. It didn’t do that at all and had the potential of costing us the game. It also gave them confidence and momentum when they had nothing going for them. Absolutely ridiculous.
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chinngiskhaanParticipant
I hear you, but if it wasn’t the statistically smart thing to do, Kyle wouldn’t be doing it. He pays a guy to stand there and tell him the right choice mathematically to make sure his emotions don’t get the better of him.
I agree, most of the time, if we keep our foot on the gas defensively, we come away with a win that looks better than the one we got tonight. HOWEVER, that doesn’t change the fact that playing aggressive leaves open the possibility of the other team coming back faster. Obviously, the prevent D was particularly atrocious this time around, so they scored fast anyway, but that doesn’t usually happen.
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TruckStopTerrorsParticipant
Tonight it clearly wasn’t the right statistical play. It didn’t burn the clock like it’s meant to and it actually put them in a position to potentially tie the game. I get that it’s easy to Monday morning QB, but I’m sure plenty of fans were screaming at their TV or at the coaches of they attended when it was happening.
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chinngiskhaanParticipant
I wasn’t any happier about it than you… but we won. I don’t think you can really say it wasn’t the right call because like I said… we WON THE GAME, which is the entire point of playing.
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TruckStopTerrorsParticipant
I think you can be critical though regardless of the outcome. You have to look at it from a different perspective too. Had we stayed with what was working then maybe they still score, but I can’t be convinced more time wouldn’t have been wasted in the process of scoring. I feel the prevent defense actually gave them the hope and momentum they lacked all game.
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YergensenParticipant
It was a mistake plain and simple repeated 2X. I don’t know who made the call, Whitt or Scalley, but it was a mistake.
It’s supposed to prevent the big play TD. Instead it allowed two TDs in 3-4 plays and 2 minutes of play.
You can argue outcome, but prevent D put us at risk of losing a game that we could have kept out of reach otherwise.
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chinngiskhaanParticipant
“it” didn’t allow the big plays. Guys trying to make the big play instead of keeping their man in front of them allowed the big plays.
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RedRocksParticipant
Yeah, I hate the prevent defense.
I understand wanting to limit big plays or whatever, but what is the point when you end up simply allowing the other team to march down the field at will?However, I think I hate the ‘prevent’ offense Utah seems to run even more.
It is more like the “predictable three and out” offense.You’d think I’d be used to it as a Utah fan, but it always grinds my gears. Why not just keep doing what was working? I can understand going a little more conservative to limit interceptions, but why make it so easy for the other team?
However, Utah won the game. What do I know.
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CharlieParticipant
The reason you see the bend but not break or prevent defense is because it is a better response to the desperate offense calls that throw caution to the wind. You might also ask why not play a desperate offense from the beginning of the game. The answer to why for both is coaches know what is best most of the time. In either case either strategy can look awkward or can fail. Still, if someone can come up with a better approach there is a very good living to be had. Until then we live with a lot of angst when it works with little margin.
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Sir PotsdamParticipant
It seems if they’d just played the smothering defense they played for 90% of the game that shut them down, we would’ve continued to shut them down. IMO, the obvious difference in the last several minutes of the game that caused the momentum swing was the switch to stupid prevent.
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TruckStopTerrorsParticipant
Agreed. It obviously gave them confidence and momentum. It also didn’t accomplish its ultimate goal considering how quickly they actually scored against it.
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pedroParticipant
Agreed. I mean replace a LB for a Safety if you need to, but beyond that, play the D that sniffled them all day long.
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dwainegfParticipant
What I have learned in life is, no matter what you do, a percentage of the people won’t like it. What I don’t understand in this case is why. We won a game in terrible playing conditions, on the road at a very difficult place to win with a back-up QB. Go Utes!!!!
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Sir PotsdamParticipant
Obviously, I’ll take the win. But, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If the defense shut them down all day, even when Bowman came back in, why in the world would Scalley/Whitt stop doing what was working? To me, it would be like Apple saying, “Man, we are making billions on our iPhones, Air Pods, iPads, etc. You know what we should do? Let’s quit making them and start training breakdancers from Australia to compete in the 2028 Olympics.”
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chinngiskhaanParticipant
Stop for a second and think about what you are asking. Why would two guys that collectively know just about everything there is to know about defense make the decision that they made? Why do they continually make that decision instead of what you seem to think is the better call? Is it possible that they have a good reason? Is it possible, maybe, that they know something you don’t? Or are you so certain that you know better than they do? Or is it that you think they just have this one massive blind spot that you think they are either too stupid or too stubborn to acknowledge? One of those things has to be true. So which is it? Are our coaches stupid, or are you just wrong?
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SteveParticipant
Bruhs, what game were you watching? I didn’t see a “prevent” defense. I saw a defense that was rushing the passer with 6 or 7 dudes and playing man coverage. You can say it was too aggressive, but that wasn’t a prevent defense at all.
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SteveParticipant
Imagine how incredible our defense would be in Scalley could play it with hindsight like ya’ll do. You should have also bought bitcoin 10 years ago.
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