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Remember when I downplayed Bushman?

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    • 08/27/2018 at 8:13 PM #64267
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      Utah
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      Looks like old Uncle Utah was right. 

      Dude is fighting to start down there. He’d be third in our depth chart, at best. 

      https://goo.gl/images/DVkQHq

    • 08/27/2018 at 8:58 PM #64276
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      FtheY
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      I admit defeat. 

    • 08/27/2018 at 9:25 PM #64285
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      UteThunder
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      Their depth chart has him listed as the number 1 TE. 

      And until we start using our TEs as real weapons on a regular basis, I won’t buy that a BYU starting TE wouldn’t start for us. They use their TEs as weapons. We almost never do which tells me our TEs aren’t better than theirs.  

      • 08/27/2018 at 9:31 PM #64289
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        ironman1315
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        1a with Holker being 1b. Dude lost what should have been the only clear-cut starting spot and now it’s up in the air.

        • 08/27/2018 at 9:37 PM #64292
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          Maybe.

          Or, or . . . They are going to run a lot of two TE sets.

          And, even if that’s not the case, it’s not like having someone come along who is as good or better than you means that you suddenly aren’t good. Was Troy Williams suddenly a bad QB because a younger player overtook him?

          • 08/27/2018 at 9:38 PM #64293
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            ironman1315
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            By all accounts, he had an awful camp.

            • 08/27/2018 at 9:41 PM #64294
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              UteThunder
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              An awful camp you say? And he is still listed as the starter? Kid must be a legit talent then, no?

              We’ll get a pretty good idea of how good or overrated he is over the next 6 weeks. 

              • 08/27/2018 at 9:50 PM #64301
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                ironman1315
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                No. It means he’s not that good.

                • 08/27/2018 at 9:55 PM #64305
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                  UteThunder
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                  Okay, sure. 50 catches for 500 yards. And that was with HORRIBLE QB play. He must be terrible.

                  • 08/27/2018 at 10:36 PM #64314
                    EagleMountainUte
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                    I wouldn’t mind having some of that from our TEs 

                    • 08/27/2018 at 10:44 PM #64315
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                      ironman1315
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                      Too bad he couldn’t be used in short yardage situations for a good sneak attack pass play over the middle to beat a run blitz, because, again, he can’t block.

            • 08/27/2018 at 9:42 PM #64295
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              EagleMountainUte
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              ARods the playcaller??? Pfft they won’t use a TE. 😉

              Also wrong category.

              • 08/27/2018 at 9:46 PM #64298
                UteThunder
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                Ha! You make an excellent point. I guess we won’t know how good he is.

      • 08/27/2018 at 9:42 PM #64296
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        Or, maybe just maybe, I was right. He can’t block. 

        Hes a big, slow Kenneth Scott…but worse. Scott could block. 

         

        • 08/27/2018 at 9:52 PM #64303
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          When was Scott ever asked to block on the line?

          Also, comparing him to KS isn’t a winning position for you. Bushman’s FRESHMAN stat line is almost identical to Scott’s best years as a JUNIOR and SENIOR. You don’t think Bushman will improve on his Freshman year? 

          • 08/27/2018 at 10:23 PM #64312
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            ironman1315
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            TE job #1 is blocking. He can’t block good.

            • 08/28/2018 at 8:26 AM #64344
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              CincyUte
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              Oh boy, are you going to look silly when the experts at 1280 name Bushman as a top 5 player in the state.

               

              I’m being sarcastic, obviously.

              (…But I’m not kidding about the 60 in 60 thing.  They’re really going to put him in the top 5).

          • 08/27/2018 at 11:44 PM #64319
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            Good lord man, you are gonna die on this vine. 

            I compared him to Kenneth Scott because Bushman is big, slow and can catch well. That is all. He is a slow WR in a TE’s body. 

            And, you mention his stats. So, are you going to tell me that Gunner Romney is a better WR than Solomon Enis because Romney had better stats as a SR? 

            Come on man. I’ll make is super, duper simple for you:

            If Bushman was as good as you think he is, he wouldn’t be listed as a co-starter with a true freshman down at BYU. 

            • 08/28/2018 at 6:45 AM #64334
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              ProudUte
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              He had some very good stats on a horrible team.  That does say something.  Maybe he was/is a bad blocker.  I just don’t know.  What I do know is that he was the one guy on that team who could get open last year.  Would he start for the Utes?  Who knows.  We don’t utilize our tight ends as receivers.

              Gloating doesn’t become you!!!

               

              • 08/28/2018 at 7:09 AM #64336
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                ironman1315
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                He can’t block. McBride talked about this. He noticed that he was only put in on passing plays and that telegraphed to the defense what was going to happen.

            • 08/28/2018 at 12:38 PM #64369
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              UteThunder
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              There are too many factors to consider to make a fair comparison of high school stats. Level of competition, supporting cast, QB talent, coaching, etc. etc. Romney may end up being better than Solomon, I have no idea. We’ll have to wait and see.

              I don’t get your reasoning that Bushman can’t be good because a Freshman is challenging him for playing time. Using that logic, the Alabama QB must not be very good because he was replaced at halftime by a Freshman who led them to a comeback victory. Bushman can still be a very good TE and have another TE who is also very good come along and challenge for his spot. In other words, someone else being good doesn’t automatically make Bushman bad.

              Like I said, we’ll see if you are right or not over the next several weeks. 

    • 08/27/2018 at 9:47 PM #64299
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      UtMtBiker
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      It’s so easy to link your URL.  Just click the little chain looking thing.  I’m amazed by how many people don’t know how to do this or are too lazy.  I’m not going to copy and past your URL if you were to lazy to do it yourself.  

      • 08/27/2018 at 11:03 PM #64316
        Utahute72
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        I would have taken Holler in a heartbeat.  Just saying.

      • 08/27/2018 at 11:47 PM #64320
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        Utah
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        What are you talking about?

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