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    • 02/22/2019 at 10:33 AM #91821
      cjd1
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      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution.html

    • 02/22/2019 at 10:42 AM #91823
      chinngiskhaan
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      shocker

    • 02/22/2019 at 11:02 AM #91825
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      KiYi-Ute
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      Real story should focus on the issue of human trafficking and not Robert Kraft, imo. (I’m not trying to soap box or get political here, just my 2 cents)

      • 02/22/2019 at 11:16 AM #91828
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        chinngiskhaan
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        Well, Kraft is apparently a human trafficker so as far as I’m concerned he deserves any negative publicity he gets (assuming it actually happened).

        He should know that most of these ladies/girls/women/people don’t go into the biz by choice. He should be able to comprehend that in paying for these services, he is monetarily supporting human trafficking.

        • 02/22/2019 at 1:34 PM #91837
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          Utesbyfive
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          Legalize Prostitution. Problem solved. Problem staying solved.

          • 02/22/2019 at 2:00 PM #91840
            EagleMountainUte
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            How would that solve the problem?  

          • 02/22/2019 at 2:10 PM #91841
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            chinngiskhaan
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            yeah… just make human trafficking legal that solves the problem. While we’re at it, lets make rape legal too… cuz if it’s not against the law anymore, it’s not abhorrent.

            If the majority of prostitutes weren’t forced into it as teenage girls, you might have a leg to stand on, but that isn’t the case. Educate yourself.

            • 02/22/2019 at 2:57 PM #91845
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              Utesbyfive
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               It’s almost like you don’t understand how black markets work. Because legalization means there’s no need for human trafficking.

            • 02/22/2019 at 2:57 PM #91846
              EagleMountainUte
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              That is the real reason why they dropped charges on a high profile guy like Kraft. They basically outted him as someone who supports sex trafficking for his own gratification. That is the story here. 

              • 02/22/2019 at 2:58 PM #91847
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                Utesbyfive
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                He  got a rub n tug. He’s a Trump supporter, so the media is going to smear him as hard as they can.

                • 02/22/2019 at 3:01 PM #91849
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                  EagleMountainUte
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                  No doubt but it hopefully brings attention to people like you that think it is a victimless crime. Just because you make drugs legal doesn’t mean it leads to less crime. It just leads to less reporting of that specific crime. 

                   

                  • 02/22/2019 at 8:34 PM #91863
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                    Utesbyfive
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                    I DID NOT SAY IT WAS A VICTIMLESS CRIME.

                    Your bias is showing. I mentioned Trump and the pile on begins. I’m out if this thread. I never should have posted in a remotely political thread.

                    • 02/22/2019 at 11:52 PM #91887
                      EagleMountainUte
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                      No you did not. Sorry to oversimplify your position perhaps. When you say “rub n tug” though you seemed to trivialize the nature of what happened. I appreciate your comments and don’t mean to lay on you. You make great comments on here. 

                • 02/22/2019 at 3:25 PM #91851
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                  3UteDad
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                  You might want to dig a little deeper into the story. Reports I’ve heard are that the establishment where he was caught were primarily Chinese nationals that may have been there under coercion at best or forcibly at worst. He shouldn’t get off on this. (pun intended). The fact the he’s a trump-buddy doesn’t earn him any points.

                  I’m not convinced prostitution shouldn’t be legalized and regulated, but to think that will end human trafficking is naive. 

                  • 02/23/2019 at 7:24 PM #91922
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                    Puget Ute
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                    More of the story coming out today.

                    Apparently these women slept on the massage tables, cooked food on the back steps of the building, and serviced an average of 1500 clients per year.

                    These women are absolutely not choosing this life. I fear these super wealthy men (like Kraft and the other billionaires getting arrested) were doing horrible things to these women because they were not in a position to say no.

    • 02/22/2019 at 11:13 AM #91826
      GameForAnyFuss
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      Wait, so it turns out Robert Kraft is a dirty old man? I’m stunned…

    • 02/22/2019 at 1:16 PM #91833
      Tony (admin)
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      A man has needs.

    • 02/22/2019 at 1:30 PM #91835
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      Utesbyfive
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      He’s an unmarried 77yo billionaire. The criminal penalty for being a ‘John’ in FL is what? A fine?

      He’s not going to be charged with “human trafficking” unless all Johns are now.

      • 02/22/2019 at 5:27 PM #91853
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        Tony (admin)
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        Doesn’t a billionaire have the “resources” to hire this out?

        • 02/22/2019 at 5:50 PM #91854
          PlainsUte
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          That’s what I wondered.  You’d think a man of his means would stay in a nice hotel and have a high-end call girl visit him at his hotel.   Or so I’ve heard.   

          Then again some of the wealthy got that way be being cheap, or they’re tight in general.  My wife has relayed stories from her hairdresser about how poorly his wealthy clients treated him on tips and always trying to get bigger discounts on products.

          • 02/22/2019 at 5:53 PM #91855
            EagleMountainUte
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            You don’t get rich by spending all of your money. 85 an hour is hella expensive to me and my Groupon massage clearance special. 

            • 02/22/2019 at 6:42 PM #91856
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              UrbanLiar
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              Maybe that’s the issue. He asked for a “Grip-On” massage instead of a Groupon massage 😉

        • 02/23/2019 at 7:26 PM #91923
          Puget Ute
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          I wonder if he went to that place explicitly to do things to ladies that he couldn’t pay ladies to do consensually.

      • 02/22/2019 at 7:44 PM #91860
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        User Suspended
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        hmm, I think you meant to post this on Fox or Brieghbart

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