Snowden

[UteManX]

some more byu tampering going on, and this is from a staff member at byu. Snowden currently makes $500,000 in NIL and byu is offering $1,000,000 to transfer after the school year. His dad told him why wouldn’t you transfer for double the money, and I agree. Why wouldn’t anyone try to double their income by moving to a new job? Is it worth it for Utah to match that and hope he stays? would he even stay? Will the Ncaa ever step in when teams are blatantly tampering and meddling.

[TheNuschler]

I’d move jobs to double my salary and currently at the best job of my life, even commute to Provo. Just sayin’.

[China Rider]

Good for the kids who can garner such a fortune. I do wonder what the money people expect for a return on these high profile investments which are so short term and to be able to then turn around and do it again. That kind of disposable cash boggles this simple mind. School pride? Tax write offs? For Kicks? A better perch at the game? Notoriety and ego?

[Kellso]

Let’s put tamper proof lids on them. They’ll never figure it out.

[Rick Walker]

Is he valued at more than $1mil based on play? I don’t think so (but it’s not my job to decide). But if tspp wants to pay him that much they can f**k themselves in doing so

[Tednab]

Sure take it out of whits paycheck.

[AlohaUte]

This is the reality of the current environment. Utah will flounder if we can’t compete on NIL. BYU appears to have the advantage because they’ve got a few billionaires allegedly backing them. I won’t hate on em for it. I hate the game, but can’t blame them for taking advantage of it.

[AlohaUte]

This is the reality of the current environment. Utah will flounder if we can’t compete on NIL. BYU appears to have the advantage because they’ve got a few billionaires allegedly backing them. I won’t hate on em for it. I hate the game, but can’t blame them for taking advantage of it.

[KJU]

You can say that again.

[RoboUte]

If this is public knowledge why isn’t there any recourse if it’s tampering?

[krindor]

Here’s why the extra money to go to BYU isn’t as obvious a choice as you might think

Last 20 years of Utah DBs (i.e. Snowden’s lifetime)

1. Eric Weddle, 2nd Round Pick, 14 years, 5x All-Pro, 6x Pro Bowl, 115 AV
2. Sean Smith, 2nd Round Pick, 9 years, 47 AV
3. Brice McCain, 6th Round Pick, 9 years, 21 AV
4. Robert Johnson, 5th Round Pick, 2 years, 2 AV
5. R.J. Stanford, 7th Round Pick, 4 years, 4 AV
6. Brandon Burton, 5th Round Pick, 4 years, 1 AV
7. Keith McGill, 4th Round Pick, 4 years, 4 AV
8. Eric Rowe, 2nd Round Pick, 9 years, 24 AV
9. Dominique Hatfield, UDFA, 2 years, 1 AV
10. Marcus Williams, 2nd Round Pick, 8+ years, 39+ AV
11. Brian Allen, 5th Round Pick, 4 years, 1 AV
12. Marquise Blair, 2nd Round Pick, 4 years, 2 AV
13. Jaylon Johnson, 2nd Round Pick, 5+ years, 1x+ All-Pro, 2x+ Pro Bowl, 31+ AV
14. Julian Blackmon, 3rd Round Pick, 5+ years, 22+ AV
15. Terrell Burgess, 3rd Round Pick, 4 years, 3 AV
16. Javelin Guidry, UDFA, 3 years, 2 AV
17. Clark Phillips, 4th Round Pick, 2+ years, 4+ AV
18. Cole Bishop, 2nd Round Pick, 1+ years, 2+ AV
19. Sione Vaki, 4th Round Pick, 1+ years, 1+ AV

And BYU’s last 20 years

1. Dan Sorensen, UDFA, 10 years, 23 AV
2. Kai Nacua, UDFA, 3 years, 2 AV
3. Michael Davis, UDFA, 8+ years, 28+ AV
4. Zayne Anderson, UDFA, 4+ years, 2+ AV

Now to their credit, several undrafted BYU DBs have done well, but Utah has a MUCH stronger history at the position. You have to go back to 1993 to find the last time a BYU DB was drafted.

There’s definitely positions where I’d be more inclined to trust BYU’s development. DB is most definitely not one of them. Even with Hill there, not until I see it. If it’s about my career, I’m going to trust proven results over strong hopes

[RoboUte]

Wow. It’s a damn shame we can’t pass.

[Jim Vanderhoof]

Thanks kindor. I think the tds finally got tired of playing second fiddle. They want to feel relevant again. They can bend the rules and buy their way in to success. As I spend more and more time at the Huntsman cancer hospital I realize how grateful I am that our big boosters (Huntsman and Eccles)spent their fortunes to help all of society and not a few 18 year olds playing football for a couple years. NIL money could be used to help so many in need. Paying entitled kids a million dollars a year and a free education doesn’t work for me. If I was a shark on shark tank I would say” I’m out”

[krindor]

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[The Miami Ute]

If this is true, and Utah doesn’t come close to significantly matching the BYU offer, then I don’t really see a pathway for Snowden to stay with the Utes. No one in their right mind turns down a job in the same geographical location paying double the wages UNLESS they have sincere philosophical differences with their prospective future employer.

For a guy like me, BYU could offer me a trillion dollars and I’d still tell them to go p**s up a rope because I wouldn’t feel comfortable in such an LDS-exclusive environment.

[Tman]

Is this story really true About Snowden?

[Utah#1]

BYU’s main objective is destroy Utah. I’ve heard stories like this before. IMO as a religious school, they’ve sold their souls to the devil for money. I believe sooner or later, what goes around comes around, usually 10 times worse. They bragged in the media all day long about their billionaire money and didn’t care that they were intentionally going out of their way to target their rivals players regardless if it seemed unethical or immoral doing it anyway with not a care in the world and denying any accusations of tampering when it clearly is just so they’re not labeled or looked at as criminals. IMO, the portal and NIL is not sustainable and will ultimately come crashing down hard and fast! Could take all of college football down with it

[Red Rhino]

This is dumb.

First, the PAC 12 dissolves for money and we have to join the same conference as TSPP.

Second, we all drink the Koolaid, then go on to have two of the most painful years I can remember, filled with injuries and inexcusable coaching.

Third, we have a football landscape where just when you get to know and like a player, he is purchased out from underneath you.

Fourth, we now have to watch as our most despised rival comes into money and comes after the players we discovered, developed, and emotionally invested in.

Fifth, costs have gone up for tickets and viewing platforms.

If I have to watch TSPP rise at our expense, it may be too much for me. This is really testing my threshold for pain.

[Tednab]

If true why didn’t he leave during the last portal? Seems like he would have been more of a priority than Tanuvasa ? Ohio St nil was at 20 mil, allegedly that’s the going rate for a natty.. 22 starting players on a team .. breaking down each position being the most important QB , rising pulled 1 to 1.5 million , give or take .. so what’s Snowden’s value ?… if 20 mil is the going rate .. which seems low in the grand scheme of stupid money being throw out there .. this number shouldn’t be impossible to obtain.. little bit of summer elbow grease should do it .. summer car washes with the sorority girls and whitts calves should get us close ..besides whit and harlan still owes back pay for the last two seasons.

[Virginia Ute]

Now they’re saying ohios budget was more like 30 million, but your point still stands.

From a Snowden standpoint, I think Utah has to match to set a precedent that this won’t keep happening. Only thing that worries me there is if the match causes discord in the locker room with NIL discrepancies (again).

[highlandute7]

Who else will they come after when spring semester ends? I doubt it will be just Snowden.

[Tednab]

Everyone .. they’re like China, why do the work when you can just steal your rivals work .. they didn’t do much during this round , but I suspect they’ll go hard in April ; if dates even matter anymore .. this is outside of whitts wheel house, U needs a proven nfl or nba GM at this point

[Utes 69]

good chance this is my last year of college sports, NIL has ruined it. time to find new hobbies!

[The Miami Ute]

You can just stick to professional sports. I’m leaning in that direction myself.

[stonguse]

Yeah, if this isn’t resolved in some meaningful way soon then I’m gonna bail. I’m quickly losing interest in college sports.

[SteelUte]

Why not go after their guys?! They want to play dirty- let’s out dirty them. Go after their biggest playmaker? Or raise the prices on their nil donors.

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