Not only is he a great football player, but dude is clearly a great leader, as well.
If you’re not aware of or are not listening to his weekly podcast with Steve Bartle on Steve’s The Utah Blockcast podcast, you’re missing out, in a big way.
I was trying to find the show on YouTube, as I just found out about the podcast last week, but what I found was an old channel, nothing with the new interviews.
Then there was a shining squirrel, got distracted, and I forgot until you just mentioned it again.