Stop calling our OOC schedule weak, it just isn’t
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chinngiskhaanParticipant
It’s certainly not strong, but BYU is looking like they might be pretty good, and NIU is an upper tier G5.
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Ute BcParticipant
It’s weak. 3 non-P5 is weak. And slow your roll on the BYU is looking “pretty good”. We will see on that one.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Tds won two games in OT against teams not taking them seriously. I still don’t know where to place them. NIU is a fair g5 win. IDSU is pathetic.
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utefansince79Participant
Was thinking perhaps NIU wasn’t that weak until they were crushed by the Cornhuskers.
If BYU plays decently (wins or at least loses a competative game) against Washington, it would make us look better.
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ChidojuanParticipant
2nd road game will do that to you.
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AlohaUteParticipant
Sigh… message board people. You really think Tennessee didn’t take them seriously after they got rolled by Georgia State? I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
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EagleMountainUteParticipant
Tennessee is garbage and yes I think they are poorly coached and don’t take anything seriously. Anything negative you can say about a program can be said of the Voles.
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ChidojuanParticipant
OOC doesn’t matter right now. All that matters is winning. Maybe it matters in the future after the playoff is expanded. Right now, the goal for every P5 team is a playoff seed. Slim chance for most teams, but the formula is simple, win. Clemson’s conference schedule is probably the weakest it’s ever been. That’s the CONFERENCE. OOC is probably even weaker than Utah’s. Doesn’t matter. They win out and they’re in. Same with Alabama. OU has what should’ve been decent. Houston is pretty good but UCLA might find a way to lose to UTEP. Everything evens out in the end.
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PlainsUteParticipant
It will matter if there are 5 P5 conference champions and only 4 make it to the playoff.
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ChidojuanParticipant
There are 5 every year though. There haven’t been enough P-5 teams that went 12-0 or 11-1 for it to matter yet. Because of that, the schedule down mentality is what works for the teams at the moment. It will work through this year at least. Even if there are 5 undefeated teams, the Pac-12 isn’t getting in over the ACC this year, no matter how wimpy Clemson’s schedule isn’t. Clemson is essentially dragging the decomposing corpes of the entire ACC behind them, Bronco is trying to bring his team back a la Victor Frankenstein, but we’ll see how it ends up.
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Central Coast UteParticipant
It’s not strong. Zero P5 opponents. If you want to call bypoo and NIU good G5 teams, fine. IDSU is a horrible FCS team so you can say the Utes have an average OOC schedule.
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SweetnessParticipant
Northern Illinois lost last week 44-8 to Nebraska….they’re not upper G5 this year…probably more like a 4-5 win G5.
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PhiladelphiaUteParticipant
It’s weak. Leave it up to the zoobies to try to put lipstick on a pig. But as for us, let’s just own it.
At some point, Harlan will have to notice that our 59th consecutive sold out game notwithstanding, fans really don’t want to see weak SOS opponents from locations we don’t recruit. At which point, perhaps we’ll start seeing a lot less of them.
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StoneParticipant
It is weak, and fans may not like it. But it may actually be the best approach for the program (for now). Although fans love to see strong non-conference games on the schedule… and we LOVE it when we win those games, but there is increased odds of a nonconference loss and injuries. Until we have won the Pac12 outright, best to schedule down, avoid injuries, and get wins.
Doing this increases our health for the conference schedule and essentially pads the W/L column so the team is almost always in a post-season bowl game and the overall record looks good every year, which then helps recruiting and becomes a virtuous cycle. I used to be of the opinion that we should schedule tough nonconference games only…but I have come around now that we are in the Pac12. Our conference games are the most critical. Nonconference is essentially preseason. If we start winning the Pac 12, I will change my opinion.
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PhiladelphiaUteParticipant
We could go 0-3 in the OOC slate, and STILL go to the Rose Bowl. The only thing an 0-3 (or 1-2 for that matter) OOC slate would do, would eliminate us from the CFP.
You have a point with the “injuries” part, but I’ve always felt that Utah’s tendencies to play down to our level of competition defeats the purpose of playing weak SOS, and rather hurts us more than helps us.
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