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Thank God the PAC 12 invited Utah to join the conference.

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    • 12/27/2017 at 8:26 PM #52371
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      RedUte
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      otherwise they would have no bowl wins so far this season. Arizona looks stupid against Purdue 

    • 12/27/2017 at 8:34 PM #52375
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      ladyinred
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      I’m sure a few other pac 12 teams will flame out this bowl season as well, and the pundits will all be justified in their pac 12 is weak commentary. Smh.

      • 12/27/2017 at 8:51 PM #52378
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        UteFanatic
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        The P12 commentary is accurate, though. Bowl games act as a good measure of conference strength relative to other conferences, and the P12 always seems to fizzle out this time of year. I could see OSU taking USC to the woodshed, too.

        • 12/27/2017 at 9:41 PM #52381
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          noneyadb
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          Anything other than the top ny6 games are useless and far from good indicators of a conferences strength.

          • 12/27/2017 at 9:49 PM #52383
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            UteFanatic
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            Disagree because it’s like this every year for the P12. And on the rare occasion a P12 team makes it to a playoff/championship game, they lose, and generally lose big (a la Washington last year). USC did beat Penn State last year in the Rose Bowl, and was a good win, but it seems like that is a rare event for the P12.

            • 12/28/2017 at 8:20 PM #52419
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              noneyadb
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              With all the recent coaching changes, and key players sitting out to prepare for NFL draft rather than play some lower/mid-tier bowl game, what honest conclusion can you gain? Oregon is a different team without Freeman and Coach Taggert. UCLA without Rosen and Coach Mora…

            • 12/28/2017 at 9:37 PM #52422
              noneyadb
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              Washington wasn’t even the best team in the pac12 last year, and Colorado was overrated. Stanford clobbered Iowa year before…

    • 12/28/2017 at 8:52 PM #52420
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      SkinyUte
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      Problem isn’t just the post-season. The P12 typically tends to flame out in any big early season OOC games as well (or loses to FCS schools), which – when combined with the poor bowl showing – is just more fodder for the “weak conference” argument.

      (Side note, why isn’t Falk playing for Wazzu tonight?)

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