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    • #18078
      UTE98
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      Troy had two more completions, 23 less yards, but no interception.
      14 completions, 163 yards, 2 TD

      Browning
      12 completions 186 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

      Washington only had 9 more yards than us. We had more first downs (guess that’s an advantage of less yards per carry), and had the ball 33:33.

      I”m not buying that Browning was that much better, they beat us on the ground.

    • #18080
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      Utahute72
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      The one thing Browning is really good at is hitting a downfield receiver on the run. I’m surprised that Troy isn’t better at that given his skill set. But how many times today did Browning keep a play alive, then burn us with a throw to keep it alive. Troy is very good in a clean pocket and within the framework of the original play. When he is pressured he tends to hurry throws or break off the receivers too early and scramble. I keep thinking, “Damn I wish we had a real life QB coach to teach these guys”.

      BTW, part of that is Browning has been doing that forever. The high school he went to has a little league football program that feeds into them. So these kids are taught the same scheme and execution from the time they start playing. Washington’s scheme is like the next step in that progression.

      • #18118
        rbmw263
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        This is accurate. While Browning made the best plays in the game with his scrambles and 1st down completions, Troy made the best throws of the game (Utahs last TD, 3rd down conersion to TP, etc)

         

        Troy has all the arm talent in the world. If he can bring his mental game along next year he could be special.

    • #18085
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      Anonymous
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      In the first half, Troy was sailing passes high and that included short throws.  He also hangs onto the ball too long and stares down receivers.  Where have we seen that before?  Second half he took a sack on anobvious blitz where he never even recognized it coming.  He should have easily escaped it, but he was fixated on his receiver.  

      I expect that Huntley will present a serious challenge to Troy for the starting slot next year.

    • #18088
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      RaftPeople
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      The biggest difference is completion percentage, not absolute number of completions.  Jake was 60% and Troy was 42%.  There is  too much hype on Jake, and Troy is a good qb, but Jake is definitely a better passer.

       

    • #18095
      Sweetness
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      Troy was AWFUL in the first half. Probably just too hyped up, nervous, wanted it too much. He was very good in the second half. He looked like the Troy we saw the first four games of the season. It’s also worth noting that while Patrick is a stud, Washington’s receiving core is a lot better than Utah’s. It’s hard to argue Troy is as good, or in the same ball park as browning, but when you consider the tools he has to work with, he’s overall done a really good job this year. Just been in a little slump and seemed to wake up in the 2nd half today. Hopefully he carries that over to the final stretch coming up. 

      • #18102
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        Anonymous
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        Actually, the receivers generally are not the problem. Simpkins had a critical drop. But just about all other incomplete passes were due to Troy’s inaccuracy. Tim Patrick even bailed out Troy with a catch around his ankles while on the run. I will acknowledge that Troy did imorve dramatically in the 2nd half, but he still was not above a 50% completion rate. Lot of his passes sailed high and they have been like that since the USC game. Definitely an issue with lazy mechanics.

        • #18111
          noneyadb
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          WR’s have a ton of drops every game, they definitely don’t help Williams out.

    • #18105
      UtahMan12
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      Williams definitely played better the second half but I think we played against the best secondary we will see this year. UW cornerbacks were spot on, it really limited our deep passes IMO

    • #18112
      noneyadb
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      Browning is winey bitch. Don’t like him at all.

    • #18113
      quagmire
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      On another note, the utes d exposed Browning for what he is, not a Hesiman candidate. 

      • #18114
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        Anonymous
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        I had the same reaction. UW did not win that game on Browning’s arm. They won it on a punt return.

        I kept wondering how things might have been different if we had Kylie Fitts playing. Just a bit more pressure and maybe another INT or two.

    • #18148
      Utahute72
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      On the sack Williams took. The problem there was play design. The blitz was actually picked up fairly effectively and the line held the defenders for a couple of beats, but the play didn’t have an outlet receiver to shoot a quick pass to. Typically you like to go back to the spot where the blitzer just vacated, but there wasn’t anyone there to go to.

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