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Utah Whittingham is insulting his supporters – I'm one of them
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I understand the policy of not talking about contracts and coaching vacancies – but there is one exception that needs to be made. Under no circumstance should he be allowed to use that crap school down south as a negotiating chip. It is insulting.
It he want’s us to believe that a little independent is driving up his cost, I say let him go. If he would even consider making that move – we have the wrong guy.
I am a big Whitt supporter. However, he needs to wise up when it comes to this particular school. He’s insulting a lot of boosters right now, by not saying something very simple: “I have been contacted by schools and I don’t comment on that, one school that is out of the question for me is that team in Provo”.
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Whitt has never been open about this sort of thing; and we all know he doesn’t like talking to the media much, period. He could also be quiet on the situation while he’s negotiating for his staff as well.
A lot goes on during contract talks, we don’t know what goes on behind those doors — and I don’t think that it’s fair, or healthy to speculate.
Edit: Also, he hasn’t done anything to make it look like he’d be considering BYU either — that’s just what fans on both sides like to talk about. There’s been nothing credible. All he should be focused on right now is Vegas.
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Couldn’t disagree more @BeehiveUte
1) It is not Hill who is stopping him from signing the extension. It is Whitt negotiating. Hill has said they are on the same page. Whitt has played his same selfish bulls**t games.
2). We will be fine if Whitt leaves just like other programs who lose their coach. Hill hired Mac, Urban and Whitt I’m not concerned about finding a replacement.
3) Whitt is an employee. His shenanigans last year and this year are damaging the program. By not squashing this Provo BS he is hurting the reputation of the school, embarrassing its donors and negatively impacting OUR program (not his).
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It’s very easy to take your name out of contention when the speculation is hurting your current employer and its’ prospects for the future. I explained myself above, I think Provo is the one exception. I find it insulting he has not said he will not take that job. If you are at the U this is the one job you do not use as negotiation against the U. It is quite easy to make this go away and not lose any focus – he is choosing not to do that.
Others can disagree and that is fine. I am telling you that he has eroding support for his handling of this.
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if i’m trying to get a raise, i don’t care if my employer thinks my next job is at 7-11, the gas station or the white house. he may be irking you but if you’re in his shoes personally, you keep everything on the table that benefits you personally. he’s certainly not overpaid IMO. the last thing he wants CH to know is that he’s not leaving nowhere/nohow. i believe that’s his personal choice to stay at Utah but he wants to have all potential cards on the table for the next payday negotiations. just what any of us would do.
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I respectfully disagree with you guys on this issue. Especially the argument that this is “none of my business” – it is all of our business. Maybe even more so mine since I am a booster.
Nonetheless, let me ask you guys this: How many of you believe that Woody Hayes or Bo Schembechler would have listened to offers from their cross town rival? It would not have ever happened. It shouldn’t be happening here. I’m not asking Whitt to give away all his chips – just one of them. He made his choice years ago to be a Utah head coach. Playing rivals against each other….shows how much he cares about the U.
Maybe that one chip is all he has – concerning…
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@leftyjace If you read the thread I mentioned it because I was told his contract was “none of my business”. I think as boosters it is our business. I think as boosters we have more weight than someone who is not a booster. For instance, boosters get more tickets to the bowl. Can’t believe this is news to everyone?
I don’t need my ego fed, yet alone on a message board. Just stating facts. Do tell me – what is my BS? You don’t think I’m a booster?
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@leftyjace Yes. I guess I have said it 3 times. I do believe that boosters opinions carry more weight. Surprised that you don’t agree.
Don’t see where I said there was “insider information”. Again, just stating facts. So still confused about the BS I am being “called out on”.
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Ok @BeehiveUte. I’m telling you that some coaches would not do it with a cross town rival. And, I agree – Whitt does not give a damn what boosters or fans think – that is his problem. That is why his “friends” leave his staff. The “life changing money” has already been paid by the U. He has more on the table.
Finally, that is why his support among boosters is eroding. I, for one, would give him a contract to sign today and a statement saying he is not interested in the BYU job – or fire him.
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Matt Wells is not a good example. He was not a P5 coach and he isn’t using his cross town rival to hurt his current employer.
EDIT: I also don’t agree he (Whitt) is the best coach in Utah history – but I suppose that depends how you measure that.
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What booster asked for that? Boosters (customers if you will) can and do voice opinions – and it matters. When boosters get calls to help with scholarships, facilities et al – you better believe a healthy program needs boosters.
For those that think Whitt is handling this perfectly – great! Hopefully the University will have plenty of those when the calls come.
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