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Flame away all you want. I do not see any upside in this kid whatsoever. None. Either you have it or you don’t. He don’t have it. Period. Move on. There’s 24 FCS QBs that throw a better ball. Those same FCS QBs can get rid of the ball prior to getting sacked too.
I’m done with this game. Headed to Home Depot to get a water heater. I put that off this morning to watch this pathetic display. Id have been far better if to start the project.
All of you enjoy this mess of a game and I’ll make a mess in my basement replacing the water heater.

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Offensive forecast for next year looks dismal. No RB, no QB, our best TE is gone and the OBlock hasn’t showed that can can get 2 yards in the red zone. I’d say Utahs offensive potential for next years screams 3 wins.
You can’t buy culture in the portal. You lease skills. Along with those skills comes a culture you can’t control.

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Who would donate to this site with people like this on it?

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Rick bottom? What about next year. Who do you see on this current roster that can lift them any higher than they are today? I don’t see any place on the roster that will be better next year. Including QB. Utah will lose big in the portal as well. Theres not enough NIL to make headway. The locker room is gone. The coaching staff is up in the air. It’s not good.

I’d really truly like to hear someone’s take about the brightest spots on Utahs roster next year and how this team will be better. I don’t see it.

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Utah won’t score against BYU. They have 7 points against a bottom dweller in Houston.
Hype this Utah team up all you want. They are not ringing up points on offense, defense, or special teams.
Bad team. Below average performances 4 weeks straight. When you find your team at the bottom 1/4 of the league standings, it’s fact that your team is a below average team. Church it up all you want. Utah is below average.
7 points against Houston in a Its pathetic.
This team can’t all of a sudden be good. They simply don’t have the talent necessary to hang with BYU. BYU is a better team than anyone Utah has played this year. It’s not even close. BYU will score 35 plus points on Utah. Utah can’t and won’t generate those numbers on their best day. Bet the portfolio on BYU. They cover easily.

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It’s not a coaching issue. It’s a talent issue. Utes have been out played. Both rose bowls. Outplayed. Both teams had better talent. Fact. No sugar coating it. They had more talent.
Today, Utah doesn’t have the talent other teams have. Be honest, step outside your Ute bubble. Utah lacks talent. The current roster has some great kids that can’t execute at the highest level. Hype them all you want but who does their job every time every down and more importantly, who wins their assignment every time eveny down. Who is it? I can’t find anyone. They don’t exist. It’s not a coaching issue.
When you watch G5 and FCS level games on tv, there’s kids on both sides of the ball that I’d trade Ute staters for. You will see zero star QBs making nfl throws all game long, you’ll see running backs that actually hit the hole. You’ll see kickoffs fly out of the end zone every time. 50 yd fields goals right down the middle.
Look at the Ute roster. I won’t go down the QB list because it’s been a mess since Brian Johnson left. It’s the worst in D1 period. The RB room is a dumpster fire. OBlock is horrible. Red zone efficiency is hot garbage. 3rd and short or 4th and short, can’t get 1 yard. It’s a talent thing. Other teams have better players. OBlock gets smacked in the mouth all game long.
WR, for starters, why have any if you are not going to use them? Play 9 down linemen. When you do use them, who do you have with more talent than anyone on defense. Utah WR lack every measurable nfl scouts desire. Speed, height, weight. No talent. You could plug any average FCS level WR into Utahs offense and he’d have the same stats. Absolute fact.

The only way Utah gets better players is with more money. My purse strings are tapped. I can’t and won’t give more. I truly see myself finding a new hobby.

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What’s left for the season. There is no championship. There isn’t. Throw out all that positive talk and face facts right in the face. This team can’t and won’t run the table. No way.
Cam is broken. He’s done. Thank him graciously. Tell him he’s medically done and just let him collect his check, by the way there’s some resentment in the locker room about his salary.
We are in the position and have been for years by not developing back up QBs. This season is over. It’s done. Move on. Develop Isaac. See what Huard has. Play rose. Any player on the team could have produced the same results cam produced last night with his feeble body.

It looks to me that it’s not just his hand. I know his ankle got rolled last night and it hurt. I believe his shoulder is also jacked up. I’ve wrecked a shoulder during college baseball. I’ve torn a labrum. I’ve torn an AC joint, I’ve torn my bicep. After these injuries I lost velocity I never got back. I lost a lot of distance. Cam has no velocity. No accuracy, he definitely has no deep ball. He’s done. He’s broke. He’s finished. Tell him he’s out already. Quit the gamesmanship. Quit the positive spin. Quit the excuses. He’s done. Let him go. Move on.

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If cam can’t play for the remainder of the year, I look for Whitt to step down prior to now season. Even if cam plays, I bet he looks hard at leaving. 8-4 or 9-3 is a definable possibility. 7-5 could happen as well with key losses on the interior line on either side of the ball.
By the end of the year, Whit will have 30 years in the Utah retirement system. He will also be 65. He will receive no penalties on his pension. He stands to get 60% of his base salary plus a maximum social security distribution. He will also have 100% access to his 401k and independent portfolios with no penalty for early withdrawal. I’d imagine his retirement benefits will exceed his entire base salary after you add things up.
He turns 65 on November 2. He could announce right after the UCF game. There’s no financial planner alive that would recommend another year of being locked in to football 7/24/365 when he has earned the right to be home with his family and do whatever he wants to do.
If he wasn’t turning 65 this year, I’d think a little differently.
I’m 100% certain that when I turn 65, I will work 3 more months to finish the fiscal year so I get a full time bonus full fair share. There’s absolutely no raise possible that would make me stay. Even if they gave me a regional VP of operations job with a $120k raise, I’m out. Money doesn’t buy time off. My family is priceless. For the past 7 years ive been on the road for 23/31 day of the month. 7 western states including Hawaii and Alaska. I’m one yr away from lifetime platinum membership at Marriott. I’m currently concierge level. No amount of money or benefit would tease me enough to stay. I believe Whitt will feel this way tomorrow if he contacted his financial advisor.

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I’ve been a Utah football fan since attending my first game in 1971 Utah vs UTEP. I’ve witnessed first hand the growth of the football program. I’ve been to 42 college stadiums including Kyle field in College station Texas. WOW what traditions. WOW of a campus. Wow of a stadium. Far more impressive than RES. Not even close.
Money is the only thing that separates Utah from blue blood top 10 programs. Utah has good coaches that provide a great environment. They have a history of high graduation rates. They have dedicated fans. The only thing they don’t have that blue bloods have is big money. Utah has a handful of big time whale donors. Blue blood programs have bus loads of big donors. Imagine having 2 dozen or more Spence Eccles in your booster club. This is what Utah competes with. When Utah used to publish a football program and sell them at the games, you were able to see all the donors names and the level of money they donated. Those who donated over $100,000 to the crimson club were on a very short list. Many of the blue blood programs have as many $100,000 donors as Utah has $500 donors.

My first season tickets cost me $30 a seat for the season. Today, I’m over $1000 a seat for the season. I have 4 seats. I spend on average $200 on concessions each game between corn dogs, nachos, drinks, and dip dots for me and my grown kids. We also hit the bookstore every first game and drop $700-800 in under armor gear for 4. That’s not hard to do. As I get older, Saturdays become a chore. With grandkids on the way, it’s going to get more busy. I truly don’t see myself being so invested in Utah football when I could easily watch every game at home and pay for a 2 week vacation in Jamaica.
The game has been changed by all this money. It’s only going to get more expensive for every fan. The Utes have changed as well. I remember the days of attending every day of spring and fall camp. Going to every scrimmage. I have fond memories of camp carbon in Price. Today, if you even walk by the the stadium during a practice, you don’t last 10 seconds at the fence without some telling you that you have to leave.

I also remember the days of following recruiting like an addict. I’d get disappointed when certain players went somewhere else. Today, I don’t follow recruiting as diligently. It was a tough habit to break, but I’m a better fan for cutting back. The thing I’ve learned by watching kids commit to a school is they always choose what’s best for them. They have their reasons and that’s what matters most. Utah does their best to attract players. To say Utah didn’t recruit hard enough, what does that even mean. When coach whit says he wants you, he means he wants you. Coach throws out the red carpet for every recruit and shows genuine interest and love for each recruit. I don’t know of many or even one that said they weren’t treated well or recruited poorly. Kids have very little life experience. All of them want more experiences. Sometimes, that means leaving their home state to gain a different life experience. I do not fault the coaches. I do not resent the players. You have to let that stuff go. The thing that upsets me the most about todays game is the money side of recruiting. More and more kids are going for the paycheck in the same way I did in my career. I followed the money path to get me where I am today. These kids are no different and I don’t fault them. It’s not a wrong choice.
I guess If you want to change any program, donate program changing money. That’s today battle.

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In recent years, Utah has not had that deep threat WR that demands a DB and a safety over the top in coverage. Defenses around the league have easily covered Utah receivers and have avoided chunk plays by playing man and zone coverage and still cover the box. This years WR group will have at least one deep threat and one person that will demand a double team. If Utahs WR room can draw more than 1 defender deep (DB and Safety) I see a Ute TE setting an all time record in receptions and yards. This all hinges on who Utah has at WR that can find catches 30 yards ways from the line of scrimmage. A deep threat presence is an absolute must in order to be highly rated in the overall passing game.
The 12 package(1 RB 2 TE and 2 WR will most likely be a staple first down formation. I’d expect a 50/50 run pass on first down and this will shift as run or pass becomes more effective. If Utah is getting 5+ yards per carry, don’t expect a lot of throws. There’s absolutely no need to burn the fuel on the dragster when you are winning the race with a bulldozer. I can see where this will be the case against Southern Utah.

Many are saying, On paper, this Ute WR room, top to bottom, is the most talented WR room Utah has ever seen. The thing that I have not seen in person is top end speed. When I see top end speed of this group, I’ll add my thoughts.

Every team in P5 has one specialty DB that is their #1 lockdown corner. This #1 DB in most cases minimizes some of the effectiveness of WR 1. Great defensive teams have 2 lock down corners. Great offensive teams have 2 high level, elite WRs. Defenses must decide who gets the over the top coverage by the safeties. Utah may have 2 elite WRs and 1 All American Level TE. If this holds true, Utah will have one nice pass package.

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